Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologiesHolocaust was fallout of evolution theory

World Net Daily ^ | Posted: August 19, 2006 | World Net Daily

[RaceBannon]

Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologies Holocaust was fallout of evolution theory, says new production

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 19, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Charles Darwin should share with Hitler the blame for the 11 million or more lives lost in the Holocaust, a new television special explains. And, the program says, the more than 45 million American lives lost to abortion also can be blamed on that famous founder of evolutionary theory.

The results of Darwin’s theories

"This show basically is about the social effects of Darwinism, and shows this idea, which is scientifically bankrupt, has probably been responsible for more bloodshed than anything else in the history of humanity," Jerry Newcomb, one of two co-producers, told WorldNetDaily.

[dirtboy]

Are you going to actually comment on the articles themselves or are you just posting?

Are you gonna realize that when the basic premise of the article is stupid, one makes it about five paragraphs into it and realizes that life is too short to waste on such idiocy? So far you act like the notion of racial superiority only came to pass after Darwin published his theory. Which is a complete joke, as poster after poster has noted. Instead of taking that into account, all you can do is complain that we haven't read the entire column.

[dirtboy]

I corrected that, thanks for being smart enough to look for it before you posted that.

You just caught making something up from whole cloth, someone corrects you, and all you can to is revert back to "did you read the article?"

[freespirited]

RB: Karl Marx plainly stated evolution was one of the basis for his theories. OB: And you can cite the section in The Communist Manifesto which covers this?

It seems to me that if Darwin considered himself the intellectual father of Marxism, he would not have refused when Marx asked him to write the intro to Das Kapital.

[Seamoth]

I know better than to argue with people who have the time to write vanities over 10,000 words in length.

[Coyoteman]

your refusal to read and comment on the post shows you lost.

This should be about reasoned discourse, not winning and losing.

But if you insist: you lost from the beginning because you posted absolute unsupportable drivel.

[Oztrich Boy]

The difference is that both Nazis and Communists claimed their policies were based on "science."

And before the age of science it was because God had cursed the Children of Ham.

All God's fault then,

[dirtboy]

your refusal to read and comment on the post shows you lost.

Methinks you're channeling this dude:

[Junior]

Wow. That's a new twist on an old canard. It used to be Marx's Communist Manifesto that creationists claim Marx wanted to dedicate to Darwin. But a few evidently realized that the Communist Manifesto was published 12 years before Darwin made the scene, so they updated the old lie with a later Marx work.

This is just to let you know, it didn't happen.

[BIGLOOK]

Just an aside; The genetic manipulation of Eugenicists does not square with Darwin's theory of Natural Selection.

The notion of superiority of one group over another is a false premise.

By the end of his sophomore year at Ohio State, Jesse realized that he could be successful on a more competitive level. Jesse entered the 1936 Olympics, which to many are known as the "Hitler Olympics." These games were to be held in Nazi Germany, and Hitler was going to prove to the world that the German "Aryan" people were the dominant race. Jesse had different plans, however, and by the end of the games even German fans cheered for him. (snip from Jesse Owens site)

[Seamoth]

Junior, I think you're misreading what freespirited said. I was going to post a rebuttal, then realized I misread him, too. :-)

[Junior]

Here. Educate yourself:

Assertion 6.13: Karl Marx dedicated Das Kapital to Darwin.

(i) This is false. No edition of Das Kapital contains a dedication to Darwin.

(ii) It has been widely believed on the basis of a letter from Darwin found among Marx's papers that Marx had offered to dedicate Das Kapital to Darwin (and Darwin refused), but thanks to some amazing detective work by Margaret Fay, this is now known also to be false: the letter in question, declining to an unnamed person the honor of a dedication in an unnamed book, turns out not to have been to Marx at all, but to another author who later became Marx's son-in-law and apparently filed the letter with Marx's papers after Marx died. The whole story is reported very clearly and concisely by Richard Carter.

(iii) It is true that Marx sent Darwin a copy of Das Kapital with a personal inscription, but it is unclear what it is supposed to prove, even if we assume the very worst about Marx. Consider terrorists who have murdered in the name of God, and the inquisitors and witch-hunters who burned people at the stake for the glory of Christ. Do their "dedications" make God responsible for terrorism, or Jesus responsible for the Holy Inquisition or the witch hunts? Does the fact that the murderers in question took Islam or Christianity to be the justification for their acts somehow demonstrate that the religions or their founders are themselves the foundation of evil? No more does Marx's dedication to Darwin, or his abuse of evolutionary theory, constitute an indictment of evolution or of Darwin himself, even if we choose to hold Marx responsible for the Communists who abused his theories.

(iv) Finally, it is worth noting that Darwin himself never so much as cut the pages of the copy of Das Kapital sent to him by Marx, which means he could never have read it.

[DoctorMichael]

..is to....as....is to..

[Junior]

D'oh! Mea culpa.

However, as stated in my previous post Darwin could not have refused because the offer was never tendered.

[NittanyLion]

What's to comment on? The material is full of factual and historical inaccuracies and logical fallacies. I reject it completely; it doesn't merit a serious response.

[RaceBannon]

Then show some gumption and post what is factually innacurate...enlighten us...

[RaceBannon]

Then show me the reasoned discourse by actually commenting on the articles instead of makng attacks

You keep letting me win this by default.

[NittanyLion]

Then show some gumption and post what is factually innacurate...enlighten us...

I already did. You ignored my post and insisted I read the articles. It's obvious to anyone that you will not be persuaded by reasonable discourse, and that everyone else on the thread disagrees with what you posted. So why would I bother wasting my time on a point-by-point rebuttal?

[dirtboy]

You keep letting me win this by default.

"It's only a flesh wound!"

[Chuck Dent]

I think he is confusing The Origin of Species (published in 1859) with The Descent of Man (published 1871) where Darwin does touch on race in a specific species.

[Silicon Cowboy]

Yea...Hitler just didn't make the cut. He was a has-been. He ain't got nothin' compared to Planned Parenthood.