Posted on 07/31/2006 5:12:40 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
I had a wonderful experience. I work in dealer finance for a bank, so I knew what I was doing.
The salesman - on the other hand - knew nothing at all. He was a newbie. Never ever had sold a car before. It made no difference to me since I knew what I wanted. After a few minutes of negotiation, I was dealing with the sales manager as he walked the newbie through the steps.
But if you even show the slightest fear or doubt in the sales process, they circle you like sharks.
That's what I'm thinking, especially with the Better Business Bureau getting involved. They have done irreparable damage to themselves on a PR level.
But that does not supercede the signed and executed contract.
Sorry I missed that. But that same papragraph referenced the sales' manager or some such's acceptance of the deal. Also there are many reasons for a postdated check (paydates and such). The dealership's use of the term implied acceptance of said item as a condition of the sale (in other words they knew about it). Now it may well be that it was meant to be a downpayment (It sounds like that too me).
But the buyer: Still pursuing this, also indicates to me a sense that he felt he was wronged and is not just some guy out for a freebie.
One thing I'd like to know is how long Heard has been in business. Generally speaking long-established businesses don't all of a sudden resort to cheating (absent a change in management or ownership).
I don't know how many items I "inadvertently" bought at a higher cost than I should have and was never given "Oops..." as a viable escape.
I see the key in the wording, they sold the vehicle at a "lower cost" instead of a "lower price". The "cost" means the dealer didn't make a profit on it.
Toyota didn't screw you, the dealer/salesman did. To hold it against the manufacturer is insane. All Toyota did was make the car and sell it to the dealer.
You're missing out on some damn fine cars.
From what I understand the buyer owed $14.7K on a $14K car. So basically there was no trade in. There was no mention of a note, and the only other consideration was a post dated check for $8100.00.
So did this clown really think he was gonna get away with buying a $22K truck for just $8100?
As bad as this is, it looks like the dealer was thinking they were selling a $3000 truck, and getting some fool to pay $8100 for it.
Like I said, both parties were loooking for overkill, but neither one won.
This was all over the radio in Texarkana, Tx this morning.
Not likely, this Antioch is in Tennessee.
I could be wrong.
That actually sounds like the one thing that fits the facts. That would be just if they both walked away a little stung from the whole affair.
"The buyer gave a posted dated check."
Seems to me this is irrelevant since if the seller accepted the check, he accepted deferred payment.
Hey, It's all about the music with me....
;-)
I'll take your word for it. The one I had was cr@p. Worn out at 82,000 miles, with proper maintenance. I've never had a Chevy I couldn't get at least 150 K out of, and actually, have only completely worn one out. That's pickups of course. Can't speak to the cars.
From the second link..
it states that a post-dated check is non-negotiable, but I always thought it is a negotiable instrument per UCC.
I could be wrong of course. I ain't no lawyer.
I'm under the impression that a PDC is fully negotiable immediately. No matter what date you put on it, it is able to clear when it's sent for deposit.
In the 70s, Toyota was pretty bad, but they are about the best that you can buy now. Chevy trucks are a lot better than the cars even though the cars have improved a lot.
My ex had well over 200,000 on her Camry, passed it on to our daughter who drove it a few years and then when Nana needed a car, she got it and she's still driving it. Hardly spent a dime on it other than routine maintenance.
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