[b_sharp]

The fact that we as intelligent designers can produce novel phenomena or reproduce natural processes in the lab does not limit those tasks exclusively to designers. It says more about our ability to mimic than it does about nature's need for an intelligent agent.

Why do you IDists use such a transparently manipulative and weak argument?

[Southack]

"The fact that we as intelligent designers can produce novel phenomena or reproduce natural processes in the lab does not limit those tasks exclusively to designers."

That's very true, however, we can calculate the mathematical probabilities for such phenomena occuring randomly...without external bias (e.g. Man).