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Good first gun for teenage son?
ThePythonicCow ^ | June 25, 2006 | ThePythonicCow

Posted on 06/25/2006 2:59:07 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow

My 17 year old son would like to learn to shoot a gun.

I used to shoot a .22 rifle as a kid, and had to qualify once a year with a handgun in the military, many decades ago. But since then I've not used a gun, and we've never had guns in our house.

There is apparently a good gun range nearby in Livermore California. I'd like to sign up my son and myself for a beginner's class. I think that means I will need to first purchase a gun.

What gun would be good for this?

I'm not even sure if it should be a rifle or pistol.

A possible secondary use for this gun -- I am hoping to move out of this leftist town, once my son leaves home in a year. My wife intends to move to Berkeley, and I'm looking fondly at west Texas. I could use a good gun or two in west Texas, I presume. The marriage has already pretty well gone South, as they say.


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To: humblegunner
Well I always was a quick study at such things.

Riight!

Which brings up another possibility. An SKS, which is cheap, doesn't recoil much, and the ammo, while not as cheap as .22 LR, is pretty inexpensive. Has the advantage of being perceived as a "real gun" ('cause they are, firing the same round as the AK-47 series0 ;. Heck even Texas Cowboy's have been known to shoot 'em, now and again anyway.

(and we all have been known to miss those Cowboys, way more than now and again)

But they are find for young guys too.

or for young gals


61 posted on 06/25/2006 8:31:05 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: ThePythonicCow
Wait, I forgot you were in California. Hmm, might have to scratch the SKS, it's either illegal, or will be by the time you get it, depending on configuratioin. That rules out the AR-15 clones as well. I guess you have to stick with the .22... Or a lever action, a Winchester or a clone, in the serious 30-30 caliber, or perhaps in a pistol caliber, like .357, .45 long colt, or .44 magnum. You can shoot .38s or .44 specials in the first and last versions, for practice, to save money and lesson recoil.

In fact I think a nice lever action in .357 would be excellent. (Although I'd go for the .44 or .45 LC myself)

62 posted on 06/25/2006 8:36:22 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato; ThePythonicCow
Check out the Marlin lever actions as well. They are, in my experience a fine rifle and accurate out of the box.

Winchesters might be a good investment (factory shutdown), especially new in the box, but once you fire them they'll lose value.

I've had a Marlin in .44 mag for 20 years and still like the rifle.

63 posted on 06/25/2006 8:49:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Check out the Marlin lever actions as well. They are, in my experience a fine rifle and accurate out of the box.

marlin lever action .44? nah.. those aren't accurate at all :)

7gr of 231, 50 yards. first and last for some reason were flyers, you can see where the other 3 went tho.
that thing was nice to shoot too. with that load there was no recoil, and that's still enough power to take out a deer.
64 posted on 06/26/2006 7:28:35 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Zeppo

The CZ has a 5 or 10 round magazine standard.


65 posted on 06/26/2006 7:49:10 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The version that I had my hands on came equipped for single shot only as standard and the 5 or 10 rd mags were an option, but I see that most current models now come with a 5 rd mag as you state (or 10 - is there a 25 available through aftermarket?)...


66 posted on 06/26/2006 8:15:46 AM PDT by Zeppo
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Don't konw about the 25, I'm not a high-cap kinda guy.


67 posted on 06/26/2006 8:25:57 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ThePythonicCow

My father taught me to shoot using a 22 revolver when I was six. By the time I was 17 I was very proficient with his .45ACP Colt Government Model 1911 (with either hand). When I bought my first gun myself a few years later it was a S&W Model 29 in .44Mag (I still have it almost 30yrs later). In my opinion a .38 Revolver or 9mm auto would be good to start with at that age.


68 posted on 06/26/2006 8:34:57 AM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: absolootezer0
When I first got mine, I bummed some shotgun hulls (empties) off some guys who didn't reload and were shooting at clay pigeons.

I lined them up on a plank at about 75 yards, sat down and proceeded to pick them off with the rifle using the stock unadjusted iron sights right out of the box. They stopped shooting to watch...

It is a great brush gun for back in the breaks here, and a nice size for carrying in the vehicle or out in the boonies as well. (8^D)

69 posted on 06/26/2006 8:36:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

My first was a Browning .22 lever action. I don't think you can even get a lever action anymore.


70 posted on 06/26/2006 2:17:11 PM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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To: Mazda3Fan
I'm pretty sure you can. For example, the very first hit on Google for "lever action rifle" is Top 7 Lever Action Deer/Big Game Hunting Rifles.
71 posted on 06/26/2006 2:41:11 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Marlin 39A .22 a classic too.


72 posted on 06/26/2006 2:43:44 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ThePythonicCow
I reccommend the Savage Mark II G .22 rifle. Make sure you get the one with the Accu - trigger. It's a little silver thing in the middle of the trigger, it makes the trigger work like a very expensive custom gun.

The rifle costs around $160 new. A Simmons 4 x 28mm compact scope costs $50 - $75. It includes rings, and it was designed to fit on a .22, so it doesn't look ridiculous there.

The .22 is cheap to shoot, most handgun ranges will let you shoot a .22 rifle. It's a bolt action, so there won't be any 'oops,' second shots fired.

Speak to anyone who shoots a lot - they have at least one .22. The things are awesome.

73 posted on 06/26/2006 4:28:41 PM PDT by sig226 (It's a gun. I shoot it.)
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That Accutrigger looks sweet - thanks for the recommendation.

I've got a feeling that there's a Savage bolt action Accutrigger .22 rifle in my future.

74 posted on 06/26/2006 6:11:09 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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