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The end result will be an overall equalization of wages for Americans, Mexicans and Canadians. That’s good news for Mexicans, but very bad news for everyone else.

Vicente Fox's legacy.
1 posted on 06/18/2006 7:49:45 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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2 posted on 06/18/2006 7:50:36 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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Traitorous


3 posted on 06/18/2006 7:52:25 AM PDT by dennisw (Fate of Nations)
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viva la revolucion!


4 posted on 06/18/2006 7:57:48 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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And this melding to North America is planned to be done by 2010. That is 4 years from now.

It is details somewhat even on the White House website:

Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Prosperity Agenda
White House Features - A Gallery of our special pages. Federal Facts. Federal Statistics. West Wing. History · Home > News & Policies > March 2005 ...
www.whitehouse.gov/news/ releases/2005/03/20050323-1.html


Especially, this segment of the SPP:

Stimulate and accelerate cross-border technology trade by preventing unnecessary barriers from being erected (e.g., agree on mutual recognition of technical requirements for telecommunications equipment, tests and certification; adopt a framework of common principles for e-commerce).
6 posted on 06/18/2006 8:02:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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The elimination of the customer base for corporate goods, id est the American middle class, seems to be a rather foolish mechanism of increasing corporate profit. Rather it will, if successful, result in a global depression.

Poor people and wage slaves do not purchase much more than food, clothing and alcohol.

This conspiracy theory has been kicking around for a century; and it has as much merit today as it did in TR's day.

8 posted on 06/18/2006 8:11:05 AM PDT by mmercier (so it goes)
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A local talk show here in Kansas City was talking about the NAFTA superhighway. According to a credible caller (can't remember the credentials), the "port" in KC is only for southbound trucks to Mexico. Additionally, the author tries to fault Bush here (as is the trend), but wasn't this highway's idea conceived by Bill Clinton?


10 posted on 06/18/2006 8:17:55 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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Spot on.


11 posted on 06/18/2006 8:20:31 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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We used to have these guys who regularly took photos of military tanks and other tracked vehicles painted white sitting on rail lines in Mississippi.

They'd combine that with the Bilderburgers, the Tri-Lateral Commission and the United Nations to come up with the idea that the United Nations was preparing to take over the United States militarily.

Jim managed to encourage those guys to go elsewhere years ago.

However, looks like they're back!!!!

(BTW guys, this all reminds me of the Dubai Ports Panic. Didn't you ever add up the numbers? The Dubai interests were going to make less than $100 per "port" per day ~ chump change. I can make that on a hot dog stand at L'Enfant Plaza every day but Sunday.)

13 posted on 06/18/2006 8:41:03 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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Bush, like his father, is a globalist. Remember Old Man Bush and all his talk about a New World Order?

The first two times I voted for W, I was in denial. But any time a man could embrace a mortal enemy like Teddy Kennedy on immigration, and put himself in opposition to a majority of his own party, then you understand that he like his father will not think twice and turn his back on those who had faith in him.


17 posted on 06/18/2006 8:53:58 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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Imagine the arrogance necessary for one to believe he's justified in wrecking three vibrant cultures – the US, Canada and Mexico...

Seeing "Mexico" and "vibrant culture" in the same sentence just doesn't cut it with me, unless you consider a "vibrant culture" as one that gets results like this:

That's good news [equalization of wages] for Mexicans, but very bad news for everyone else.

Like modern-day Mexico, we'll have two classes: The very rich and the very poor.

18 posted on 06/18/2006 8:54:58 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Yep. Nobody seems inclined to stop corporate globalization.


19 posted on 06/18/2006 8:57:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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You can find the hard numbers by following the links at the end of the article.

Show me the links!

21 posted on 06/18/2006 9:00:44 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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One correction please.

Our currency will be replaced with the “Amero.” And, we’ll be one giant step closer to the U.N.’s perverse dream of a one-world government.

"...will be replaced..." ( ? ) Change that to, has already been replaced. Our currency has long since been replaced. And THAT my dear friends is what has enabled world socialist government to reach this point.

Here is how it was done. THIS WAS OUR CURRENCY. It is exactly what the U.S. Constitution mandates we use as money. Does anyone bother to respect the Constitution anymore? It is not debt. It is wealth. It was born of nature and worked into what it is. It is an asset which is not simultaneously someone else's liability. It bears no interest except when its owner consents to lend it to a borrower for a rate.

And this WAS our currency.

Paper money was in use and that was fine as long at the paper promised to pay gold or silver coin on demand.

It is not easy to see but it reads, "this certifies that there has been deposited in the treasury of the united states of america payable to the bearer on demand one silver dollar." This WAS our money. And so WAS the following.

Again, it is not easy to see but it reads, "this certifies that there has been deposited in the treasury of the united states of america payable to the bearer on demand twenty dollars in gold coin." This WAS our money. The SUBSTANCE of our money was gold bullion and the LAWS of money in the United States made it LAWFUL MONEY.

Where are such items today? Coin shops and personal collections. Why? Some will say what we have today is better. Is it? What do they know?

What we had then (gold, silver coin) was replaced with what is in your pocket and your bank account. What is in your pocket or your bank account is debt. It is not wealth, it is a debt. It was born of legislation and automatically arrives with interest due. It is a fiduciary asset which is absolutely simultaneously someone else's liability. It bears interest for the benefit of the issuer, the central bank, the instant it goes into circulation and bears interest again when a citizen lends it to another citizen at an agreed upon rate. You may not be directly paying interest on it, but you are through your taxes, and you will continue to do so to the one world government. The use of the silver and gold currencies above, was free to the citizens of the United States and it is what our founders wanted us to use as money.

What we have today people is exactly what the Amero would be except it would have different printing on the paper and it would be intended to circulate among three nations whereas the paper of the Federal Reserve System is more or less meant for the United States. The printing, "The United States of America," at worst makes Mexicans and Canadians feel that they are using someone else's currency. Yet, changing the name to the "Amero" would only allow our neighbors to believe the currency is theirs too. Nothing will have changed in the nature of the money. It will still signify a debt to the central bank. So, in effect, we shouldn't be so worried about our money being replaced, because (1) it already has been, and (2) it is not really being replaced a second time, but is only undergoing a cosmetic alteration to make it acceptable to this so-called "Union."

The move from the above shown money, to the federal reserve note was unimaginably VAST in terms of its legal and sovereignty implications and should have been stopped before it started. It WAS the giant step closer to socialism's perverse dream of a one-world government even before the U.N. existed. But regarding the move from the Federal Reserve Note to the Amero, there's no substantive difference!

You patriots are all too late. The train left the station almost a century ago. And to be fussing over the Amero with no desire to go back to gold and silver coin of the U.S. Constitution is just silly. It is as insignificant as changing the designs that appear on our copper quarters.

22 posted on 06/18/2006 9:05:08 AM PDT by Jason_b
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If this process continues to move forward, the American middle class will be a dim memory. Like modern-day Mexico, we’ll have two classes: The very rich and the very poor.

Hmmm...looks like the key here is to move towards the "very rich" side of the equation.....

25 posted on 06/18/2006 9:24:15 AM PDT by Panzerfaust
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Regarding "The end result will be an overall equalization of wages for Americans, Mexicans and Canadians."

This may be true for the example of trucking and trucking unions, but a basic idea in globalization is "competitive advantage." That means people do what they're best at, and get paid accordingly. Since the U.S. is supposedly more educated and innovative than third world countries, there are more people in the U.S. who can get into jobs that require more education and "mental work", and thus be paid more than someone with less education and/or opportunity to do "mental work". If you're a truck driver though, you're going to have a lot more people competing for your job.

This isn't just theory to me, either. I lost my computer programming job five years ago because: a) the economy slowed and India was much cheaper, and b) I got older (and my salary got higher) and I didn't upgrade my skills. You can't sit in the same job for decades anymore, you've got to keep training and pushing yourself. If you don't, you'll be competing with people who are climbing the ladder and would love to have your job, but at less pay. The more labor unions encourage workers to not have to compete, the more they make those workers obsolete and too expensive.

The thread so far seems to be headed in a conspiracy direction, but I thought I'd throw in a point of basic economics. Should I be flamed as a "globalist?" I believe that we need to control our borders (fences are good), that George W. Bush seems to have a unholy alliance with Mexico (and Saudi Arabia), and we should stop giving money to the UN. That being said, I still don't think we should try to make the U.S. less competitive or we'll end up like General Motors (which looks like a likely victim of another economic principle, "creative destruction.")


28 posted on 06/18/2006 9:30:16 AM PDT by pondering
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"Hitler, as twisted and evil as he was, sincerely believed he was working for the benefit of his people."

So Burkhart has managed to conclude that it was Good Intentions that paved the way to World War II and the Nazi holocaust???

Actually he has a point. So much for the Good Intentions of our contemporary "Activists"--notably all those Leftist "Activists" who are determined to drag the rest of us down that well known, well paved Road to Hell with their oh-so-Good Intentions. But this is nothing new to those who think clearly and are scrupulously truthful.

30 posted on 06/18/2006 9:47:27 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George Bush and his supurb leadership.)
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BTTT!


37 posted on 06/18/2006 10:18:14 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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This article is spot on. The war on the American middle class is well underway, and the rest of the article is also correct. Bush is aggressively trying to link the US, Canada and Mexico into one big, EU-style organization, despite the fact that the majority of Americans oppose it.


39 posted on 06/18/2006 10:43:40 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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You forgot the Tin Foil Hat Alert.


40 posted on 06/18/2006 10:45:19 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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If this monstrosity is forced upon America, may GWBush and his greedy cohorts burn in hell forever.

I hope everyone will scream to their Senators, their Representatives, their Governors and their local government officials to fight against this deliberate destruction of the American middle class.

Bush has no right to do this to America, like a coward, behind our backs, and I believe it is an impeachable offense.

45 posted on 06/18/2006 11:42:19 AM PDT by janetgreen
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