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2006 WORLD CUP -- Day 3 Thread -- USA Ready For Opener
MLSnet.com ^ | 6-12-06 | MLSnet.com

Posted on 06/12/2006 5:28:43 AM PDT by soccer_maniac

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To: Michael81Dus

Ghana is the wildcard here with Essien, they might end up surprising people.


241 posted on 06/12/2006 11:19:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Michael81Dus
Well at least the US' undocumented other team is still in the running after beating Iran 3-1 yesterday. ;)

BTW, I am rooting for the Cariocas too.

242 posted on 06/12/2006 11:21:30 AM PDT by beckaz (Deport, deport. deport.)
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To: eyespysomething
Do you know if H. watched?

I know he watched at the beginning and saw through where Koller went out (on the phone with Dad I heard him in the background yelling, "The big guy's out!"). Don't know when he got fed up and went to the pool, but I bet he didn't see the second half.

BTW, You've got a fairly urgent email needing a reply. I also asked you to call me and you didn't.

243 posted on 06/12/2006 11:22:21 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: Rummyfan

You know as Bill Parcells says, "You are what you are." This is where the US is right now, they are in that middle-tier of teams, capable of beating most teams in North America, but nowhere near the elite European teams.

Last year the second-string English team wiped the field with the US "A" team in Chicago.


244 posted on 06/12/2006 11:22:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: You Dirty Rats
How could we be so outclassed when our players come from Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Bayern Munich, Juventus, AC Milan, and Liverpool?

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245 posted on 06/12/2006 11:24:16 AM PDT by relictele (Carry On The Anglosphere)
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To: SittinYonder

Where is this email?


246 posted on 06/12/2006 11:25:55 AM PDT by eyespysomething (In a fight between Batman and Darth Vader, the winner would be Chuck Norris.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Well...there is "a guy" who made it with a chick from each sorority on his campus...back in THE DAY!@!

Heh, heh...ADP, GPB, KD, DZ, ChiO, DG, AZD...

USA! The USA decided NOT to play too hard today, since IF WE WON, we would have taken advantage of a SMALL COUNTRY, we would be accused of spreading VICTORY across the world and MAKING ENEMIES!!

So, by LOSING, we actually WON!!

G


247 posted on 06/12/2006 11:28:49 AM PDT by GRRRRR (WHERE is the next Ronald Reagan? Virginia?)
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To: You Dirty Rats

"How could we be so outclassed when our players come from Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Bayern Munich, Juventus, AC Milan, and Liverpool?"

Yer problem is they don't. Now I'm a Fulham fan and I like Brian McBride but even I'll admit Fulham aren't in that class.


248 posted on 06/12/2006 11:30:38 AM PDT by FostersExport
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To: FostersExport
A Fullham fan? My condolences.

LOL j/k

249 posted on 06/12/2006 11:31:36 AM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: frankiep
How in the world can a supposedly world class team look so uninterested in a game like this.

The jury is out on whether we actually are a world class team.

We got crushed in 1990. We squeaked through the first round in 1994 thanks in part to an own goal by a since-murdered Colombian, we were wiped out in 1998, and we surprised the Portugese with three goals in ten minutes in 2002 and then, outside of two goals against Mexico, our offense disappeared.

We have to get a result against the Italians.

250 posted on 06/12/2006 11:35:01 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: soccer_maniac

I'm very frustrated. 3-0, worse than England v. Paraguay, Sweden v. T&T, or even Germany v. Costa Rica.
But the game is over, and it was pretty convincing evidence that the US is NOT #5 in the world. I couldn't figure out how we got that high anyway, with losing 1-0 against Morocco and managing only 1-0 against (not exactly a world power) Latvia.
We play like a brickmason lays bricks - very predictable buildup, no creativity, no flashes of brilliance. Way too methodical. This seems to be Arena's style. I don't enjoy watching it much, on the other hand it worked pretty well in 2002.
I also don't know why this article (and most others) make such a big deal out of Donovan. He's scoreless in something like 12 international games. McBride is far more dangerous - witness his goals for Fulham against Mu.
I hoped against the odds that we'd at least repeat the exciting play of the 1994 World Cup. Brazil were very lucky to have escaped with a 1-0 win, and might not have done so had they not cracked Ramos' skull (he was creating most of our chances at that point). Maybe we should bring back Multinovic!


251 posted on 06/12/2006 11:35:34 AM PDT by Imnotalib
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To: dfwgator

Second in the group is likely to play Brazil in the 2nd round.


252 posted on 06/12/2006 11:37:25 AM PDT by Imnotalib
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To: dfwgator

I counted three US players standing around in the 2nd goal from the top of the key. Lot of sloppy passing and "kick and run" plays. CZ was blazing fast, too; smoked our guys on sprints.


253 posted on 06/12/2006 11:38:17 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: You Dirty Rats

If they keep playing like they did today I'll be surprised if they score a single goal in this World Cup. The strategery of standing around and taking 35 yard shots every once in a while just isn't gonna cut it. I don't know what they were thinking trying to play like that.


254 posted on 06/12/2006 11:40:54 AM PDT by frankiep (I respect Islamofacists more than the American left - at least they ADMIT that they hate the US.)
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To: Imnotalib

The bottom line is that in 2002, we scored in the 4th minute against Portugal, this time we give up a goal in the 5th.

And as good as the US was in 2002, they still let a Polish team that was already eliminated, dominate them. They were lucky to get through.

The US team as is is built for one thing, beating Mexico. That's nice, but that alone won't get you very far in the World Cup, especially on the European continent.


255 posted on 06/12/2006 11:42:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Imnotalib
it was pretty convincing evidence that the US is NOT #5 in the world

Probably so. Perhaps it's because we start kids off young and we never keep score of the games so it doesn't hurt their "feelings" if they lose. Perhaps our team will have a BIG party after this 3-0 trouncing because they were trained to not care if they won or lost.

256 posted on 06/12/2006 11:44:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: FostersExport
Yer problem is they don't.

My problem is some people thought I was series. I'm well aware that Reading, Hannover 96, Borussia Monchengladbach, Fulham, etc. are not exactly threats to win their leagues. (OK, Reading won their league, but it wasn't the Premiership so let's see how they do there).

257 posted on 06/12/2006 11:44:34 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: FostersExport

Guess you didn't see McBride score 2X against MU.


258 posted on 06/12/2006 11:46:41 AM PDT by Imnotalib
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To: dfwgator

"We need the Czechs to win out, we control our destiny against Italy and Ghana, that's all that matters now. The fewer points for those two teams, the better."

Understood.

However my scenario works like this:

US beats Italy (which is usually a low scoring team) and Ghana. And Italy beats the Czechs and Ghana. And the Czechs lose to Ghana. Thereby putting the US and Italy through.

I come with this scenario on these grounds:

1. Czechs now have many yellow cards (from our destiny of having played them).

2. Czechs two strikers now look out on injury. (again one from our destiny of having played them).

3. Czech players are old.

4. The %$§&'s who beat us 3-0 in a World Cup match get shoved off to history ASAP.

Revenge is a dish best served in the World Cup, and when the Czechs go down I will be laughing at their "victory" over us.


259 posted on 06/12/2006 11:47:37 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: dfwgator
The US team as is is built for one thing, beating Mexico. That's nice, but that alone won't get you very far in the World Cup, especially on the European continent.

Don't see how we could be built to be European or South American powers, not with our lack of talent compared to other nations.

We don't have one player remotely close to Michael Essien, for example, and Ghana is considered weak.

260 posted on 06/12/2006 11:47:54 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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