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Gag order sought in lacrosse case (NAACP Wants Gag Order)
Durham Herald-Sun ^ | May 25, 2006 | PAUL BONNER

Posted on 05/25/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by abb

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To: SwampFoxSC

That's quite a video.

The Tourism Bureau of North Carolina must be thrilled.


481 posted on 05/26/2006 12:18:16 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: JLS

"Two attorneys close to the investigation have told WRAL that the DNA samples have been sent to another laboratory for testing, but they were not able to say why -- whether it was for quality-control purposes or because Nifong was not satisfied with the results."

Yeah, it was a QC check. That's the ticket! :-)


482 posted on 05/26/2006 12:29:11 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: JLS

I guess a summation would be that he used the right or at least a sensible policy or decision for the wrong reasons. He obviously doesn't care about a quality investigation, which would be the sensible policy and reason for not disclosing the full report to the defense, so his motive for not disclosing it was not honorable since he was bound and determined to indict no matter the outcome of the tests.


483 posted on 05/26/2006 12:45:12 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: ltc8k6

It is very curious.


484 posted on 05/26/2006 12:45:37 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Jezebelle

How come the defense hasn't said anything if Nifong didn't give them the full DNA report from the SBI though?


485 posted on 05/26/2006 12:48:56 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: darbymcgill

But the quote from the second meeting does not say there wasn't DNA material, it says there was no match.

I guess I should catch up and figure out what we are really talking about here. Sorry if this is a distraction.


486 posted on 05/26/2006 12:50:41 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: bjc

Well, you can find both sorts of quotes. It's a bit odd.


487 posted on 05/26/2006 12:55:23 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: JLS

I am a bit bored, I guess.

I am used to sleuthing about the breaking revelations in this case and now they have slowed down.

Trying to make my own, I guess. :-)


488 posted on 05/26/2006 12:57:45 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Your insistence on continuing this sub-thread is growing a beard. Please move on with the discussion or start a new thread.


489 posted on 05/26/2006 1:20:26 PM PDT by Guilty by Association
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To: Guilty by Association

It takes more than one person to have a discussion.


490 posted on 05/26/2006 1:22:19 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

JLS has tried to explain the scenario to you on countless occasions. You just don't seem to get it.


491 posted on 05/26/2006 1:29:29 PM PDT by Guilty by Association
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To: ltc8k6; JLS
Last month, defense attorneys publicly stated that DNA samples taken from 46 Duke lacrosse athletes cleared the players, but Nifong hinted on Wednesday that there may be more to the DNA tests than defense attorneys are sharing.

That sure sounds like there was DNA...besides they couldn't retest something that wasn't found.

"My guess is that there are many questions that many people are asking that they would not be asking if they saw the results," Nifong said.

He finally tells the truth! If people had seen the results they would not have been questioning the boy's innocence.

WRAL has asked defense attorneys to share information on the DNA results, but they have declined the request. Nifong cannot release the DNA results because doing so would be against state policy, he said.

We all know Nifong would never do anything unethical...like 70 press conferences calling the boys names and promising indictments before he had any evidence.

"They're not things that the defense releases unless they unquestionably support their positions," Nifong said. "So, the fact that they're making statements about what the reports are saying, and not actually showing the reports, should in and of itself raise some red flags."

This is nothing but spin on his part. He almost sounds like he wanted the defense would put the DNA report out, since it would show undetermined DNA. That way, he could say the investigation was ongoing. When the defense didn't help him, being the "ethical" DA that he is, he remembered his pledge to get indictments so he sent out for retesting, indicted the players, won the primaries and then tested the unknown persons.

Shortly after Nifong received the DNA test results from the State Bureau of Investigation, he ordered a second set of more sophisticated tests at a private laboratory because the SBI crime lab is not certified to perform them. Nifong said on Wednesday that the tests were ordered because the SBI suggested them.

My guess is that the SBI isn't certified to "make a mountain out of a molehill". Either that, or Nifong is passing the buck.

492 posted on 05/26/2006 1:32:41 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Guilty by Association

I understand perfectly what JLS was saying.

I don't understand what Cheshire was saying.


493 posted on 05/26/2006 1:41:20 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: bjc
But the quote from the second meeting does not say there wasn't DNA material, it says there was no match.

Not a problemo...

I know that's what he said and I've seen him say it twice myself.. But when I looked at the news conference on the 12th after the 2nd DNA test, the way he said it then left the impression that there really wasn't any other DNA. He said it like "there was no other genetic material that would (or could... my term) match anyone anywhere"...

Now if he said it that way and it seemed very extemporaneous, but he really meant something else, then he is really good.

I have read a couple articles previously and today that insinuated that there was evidence of at least three donors, of which only one was matched. But I can't get that from the defense guy's statements.

Let me add this... If there is other genetic material on the 2nd DNA report retrieved from the AV that does not match any of the Duke players or her BF and neither of the 2 drivers she named, then she is again proved to have deceived the DA. If that is the case, I cannot understand why the defense wouldn't be making that known, instead of trying to pretend it's not there.

494 posted on 05/26/2006 1:41:23 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill

We'll just have to wait and see if this stuff clears up, I guess.


495 posted on 05/26/2006 1:43:25 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

They have the rest of the first report and the results of the second test as part of the discovery documents.


496 posted on 05/26/2006 1:43:35 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Mike Nifong

Do you know the name of the boyfriend?


497 posted on 05/26/2006 1:43:43 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Krodg; Jezebelle; Protect the Bill of Rights; Peach; abb

There was another line-up we weren't told about:

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/443889.html

And apparently there was no transcript or recording provided to the defense.


498 posted on 05/26/2006 1:47:31 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Jezebelle

I wonder if Kim's fingerprints were in the bathroom?

In fact, I wonder about the fingerprint evidence in general.

It would be interesting, but it wouldn't say when Kim was in the bathroom.


499 posted on 05/26/2006 1:48:20 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: GAgal

This just gets more and more incredible. Thanks for posting the article.


500 posted on 05/26/2006 1:51:48 PM PDT by wiltale
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