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Gag order sought in lacrosse case (NAACP Wants Gag Order)
Durham Herald-Sun ^ | May 25, 2006 | PAUL BONNER

Posted on 05/25/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by abb

DURHAM -- A lawyer with the state NAACP said the civil rights organization intends to seek a gag order in the Duke lacrosse case, and a journalist who participated in a forum with him on Wednesday said media coverage of the alleged rape may deprive the alleged victim of her legal rights to a fair trial.

Al McSurely, an attorney who chairs the Legal Redress Committee for the state National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he generally respects the defense attorneys in the case as colleagues. But they are violating the State Bar's rules of professional conduct that discourage comments outside court that are likely to prejudice a case, he said.

The NAACP will try to intervene in the case to file a "quiet zone/let's let justice work" motion. That is otherwise known as a gag order, he acknowledged, although he said he doesn't like that term.

McSurely's comments came amid the first-ever Durham Conference on the Moral Challenges of our Culture at First Presbyterian Church downtown. The session gave the approximately 150 people who attended a chance to hear a series of talks and discuss among themselves sexual and domestic violence, racism, class distinctions and the media.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: crystalgailmangum; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; naacp; nifong
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To: Sacajaweau
No, they're worried that charges will be filed against her.

And so they should be.

I wasn't aware of the NAACP getting involved until now. I haven't followed it every day. As far as i new it was only the NBP's that that stuck their noses into this. Has the NAACP been involved before this?

141 posted on 05/25/2006 11:23:04 AM PDT by uncitizen (" We are a nation of NATIVES")
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To: Hogeye13
I am only regurgitating what I heard on one of the news sources on FOX or posted here in the articles or links to sources. The thought of this AV studying any form of law or justice makes me very, very ill. I can't prove or disprove her student status, but she has certainly floated that as her avocation. As to her vocation, I believe we are to assume it is "Performer" in order to support her children and avocation. I have also read/heard that Rainbow Push has offered to fund her avocation so she can devote the proceeds of her vocation to rearing her two children.
142 posted on 05/25/2006 11:25:42 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
One of the favorite studies of convicts in prison is Law!!

Regardless, I think she's just scamming Grant Money.

If she is going to college, well...let's just call it a "base".

143 posted on 05/25/2006 11:30:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Hogeye13
Strangely, her name does not appear on the Dean's list for the Fall 2005 semester, the most recent time that a grade point average could have been accumulated, I believe.

You know someone else posted they searched a database for the school she was supposed to be going to for the past 6 years or so and they didn't see her name either. I wish I could remember what thread it was in.

144 posted on 05/25/2006 11:30:30 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

Supposedly - she ask the school to lock her records so they wouldn't be available to anyone checking the database.


145 posted on 05/25/2006 11:33:12 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Sacajaweau

If our system of justice has come to this, there is little wonder they study law in prison -- God knows they'd never have the means or opportunity out on the street. If these boys are convicted of this stupid charge, I suspect they'll have to be studying law in prison, as well. They sure haven't had the benefit of a just system on the outside. (Okay, I'm better now, I just had to vent.)


146 posted on 05/25/2006 11:33:43 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Mercat
This is not the alleged victim's trial and she has no right to a fair trial. It's the defendant(s) who have the right to a fair trial.

Constitutionally correct. Politically incorrect.

147 posted on 05/25/2006 11:36:02 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (How odd of God to put so much crude under the arses of those so rude.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

CG, I am unable to disprove her student status either. Just unable to find anything that verfies what is printed and broadcast in the media everytime something is said about the FA. It looks like with all the statements that have been made that something would appear that could be used to verify the status.

I am more and more inclined to believe that this is another sorry attempt to bring sympathy to the FA and further influence the jury pool. The news media just blindly accepts and follows the party line without a bit of investigation.


148 posted on 05/25/2006 11:38:15 AM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: ladyjane

Who the hell really cares about her school record except the folks who pass out grants. For all we know, a judge sent her to go to school in lieu of prison. It's all about her job!


149 posted on 05/25/2006 11:41:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Hogeye13
I believe in education, fully convinced it is the only way for people to better themselves, but in this case, the thought of a woman of this caliber being educated on my dime (i.e. grant) makes me hope fervently that it is a flimsy attempt to put lipstick on a pig.
150 posted on 05/25/2006 11:43:13 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Sacajaweau

You're right, there might have been an earlier deal in which she would attend school. OTOH she might not have gone there at all.

I'm reminded of the man who murdered his wife after she found out he wasn't really in medical school. All the family and neighbors had believed his school story for years.


151 posted on 05/25/2006 11:45:11 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: uncitizen

"Has the NAACP been involved before this?"

Unfortunately yes, to their discredit. (Sometimes what a local NAACP does, though, is dependent upon the local NAACP leader, not the national level HQ.)

They have also participated in joint meetings where the NBPP was also invited, and Shabbaz spoke his usual rant. (That would be like David Duke speaking on the same podium as other white leaders.)

Likewise the minisiterial association of Durham has chimed in with support for the AV. (Makes me recall that religious don't have a good record when it comes to leading the stampede against
an innocent accused.)


152 posted on 05/25/2006 11:54:59 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: All
Has Crystal ever had a REAL job where they collected taxes and SS and all that. Does she get Medicaid, disability, school grants, welfare, tax refunds (for the poor)?

What did I miss?? Exhausting her parents savings? Theft & blackmail (clients), shoplifting? ....oh, yeh...mowing down people with her car?? or was that her new ex-best friend, Kim??

153 posted on 05/25/2006 11:56:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ladyjane

That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Defense attorneys are expected to find reasonable doubt, where it exists, when evaluating evidence.

These types of 'what if' arguements would only apply if a charge of filing a false police report are filed against the AV.

It is not the responsibility of the defendant to prove a negative.


154 posted on 05/25/2006 11:56:31 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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To: darbymcgill

"If you knew, what would be the fun of a hiek? ;)"

Are you makeing fun of mie spilling?


155 posted on 05/25/2006 11:57:16 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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To: ladyjane

"Oh, the tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." Unfortunately I think her parents are dumber than a box of rocks, like the folks out in Utah who believed their son/husband was in school all that time. Trust, but verify, I wasn't born yesterday. I make sure I have my finger on the pulse of my son's whereabouts, and if something smells in a story he proffers, I keep prodding like the loving mother I am, until he cracks. (Okay, okay, I know. It's my second vent of the day, but I'm better now, really.)


156 posted on 05/25/2006 11:59:11 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: rwilson99

You're right. A DA's job is unique. His search is for the Truth and Justice in the name of the People he represents. His role is too adhere to certain standards to get to that Truth.


157 posted on 05/25/2006 12:00:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
oh, yeh...mowing down people with her car??

Wasn't her car, she was drunk trying out for a spot at a strip club and flipped out and stole it.

158 posted on 05/25/2006 12:00:49 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

Oh, so we can add auto theft to her credentials!!


159 posted on 05/25/2006 12:03:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Constitutions Grandchild; ladyjane

Let's see:

1. The guy in Utah was not in medical school but claimed he had been accept to medical school in NC as I remember. He and the wife were preparing to move to NC. That makes the family believing a bit less odd than if he were claiming he was going to medical school.

2. Mangum was in the Navy. I am not sure if service personnel pay FICA or not, but it is a real job.


160 posted on 05/25/2006 12:15:12 PM PDT by JLS
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