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Grand jury may consider new charges in Duke case
Raliegh Observer ^ | 5/15/06 | Ben Niolet

Posted on 05/15/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

DURHAM - A Durham grand jury is scheduled to meet today, and the session could mean new charges in the investigation of a reported rape at a Duke lacrosse team party.

Two of the team's players were indicted in April on charges of first degree rape, first degree sex offense and first degree kidnapping. They are accused of assaulting an escort service dancer in a bathroom of a house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. Their lawyers say the men are innocent, and lawyers representing dozens of team members say that no sex or assault occurred at the March 13 party.

But the woman says she was attacked by three men, and Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong said he has been working on bringing charges against a third person.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TODAY? If Nifong decides to submit the case, police investigators and possibly other witnesses will try to convince grand jurors in a secret session that the state has probable cause to bring a case forward. Grand jurors will hear only the prosecution's side of the case. The standard required for a true bill of indictment is far lower than the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard required for a conviction.

IF INDICTMENTS ARE ISSUED, WHEN WILL THEY BECOME PUBLIC? On April 17, a judge ordered the indictments in the lacrosse case sealed. The names of the players who were indicted were not released until 5 a.m. the next day when the players surrendered at the Durham County jail. If Nifong again requests that the indictments be sealed, the law allows a judge to keep them secret until the person is arrested or appears in court.

WHEN WILL ALL THE EVIDENCE BE REVEALED? State law requires prosecutors to turn over all of their case files to defense lawyers, but nothing requires the evidence to be turned over to the public. In open court hearings, lawyers often discuss some of the evidence, but the state's case may not be revealed until trial. No trial dates have been set. When a report on the DNA testing is complete, Nifong is required by law to turn it over to all 46 members of the lacrosse team who submitted DNA samples.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? The cases against Reade William Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are moving forward. Finnerty has a court date in June. Seligmann is scheduled to appear in court Thursday. His attorney, Kirk Osborn, has filed a series of motions challenging Nifong's handling of the case and asking a judge to bar the prosecutor from further involvement.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; wtf
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To: All

Sean is calling it blockbuster news now.
Has Abrams said anything yet.


1,741 posted on 05/16/2006 1:52:52 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: maggief

There's nothing unusual about the cops not running Kim for warrants. She wasn't suspected of anything and there was no evidence of any criminal activity going on. She appeared to be a good samaritan. The cops don't run everybody they come into contact with. I would not even expect them to ask her for her ID.


1,742 posted on 05/16/2006 1:53:19 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

I'm shocked they never searched Kim's car. Even as a "good Samaritan" evidence could have been left there. I wonder if Kim was even asked.


1,743 posted on 05/16/2006 1:55:58 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: Jezebelle

Didn't the guard report that Kim smelled of alcohol?

An officer would certainly react to that.


1,744 posted on 05/16/2006 1:56:17 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Especially since she was driving


1,745 posted on 05/16/2006 1:57:05 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: Jezebelle; All
Jezebelle, this post is not directed at you but is intended to relay something of interest. I just signed on today but have followed this subject on FR almost from the beginning. I have lurked on FR for over two years. I have more than a passing interest in this subject as I have a son that works for a division of Duke University. To protect his privacy I will not reveal any more than that.

To the interesting matter that I have uncovered: I have questioned, from the beginning, the labeling of the "false accuser" as a NCCU student. The link below is a PDF file from the NCCU website listing students and their accumulated hours since 2001 up to May 9, 2006. On page 79 a listing appears for Mangum, Crystal G. The listing shows the accumulated hours for this person as "0".

I believe that this "student" label has been applied to her to make her more sympathetic to the general public and to the potential jury pool. Being a stripper/hooker is not near as compelling as a "student". Maybe there is some other actual proof that she is a student, but at this point I don't believe it.

Link:

http://www.nccu.edu/commserv/studenthours.pdf
1,746 posted on 05/16/2006 2:03:18 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Neverforget01

I suspect Kim was gone before any crime was alledged by Mangum.


1,747 posted on 05/16/2006 2:03:51 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Neverforget01

I have a u15 and a u11 (and a u2-ha).


1,748 posted on 05/16/2006 2:04:50 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Hogeye13

Thanks for the info and welcome to FR....


1,749 posted on 05/16/2006 2:05:00 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: za_claws

I get so tired of Sean's teasers...


1,750 posted on 05/16/2006 2:06:09 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Hogeye13

That appears to be community service hours, not classroom hours. None fits her to a "T" though.


1,751 posted on 05/16/2006 2:06:31 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Hogeye13

wow. Maybe she was waiting for Jesse to pay. I never thought she was a full time student but may have or was taking a class. Maybe she took dancing? But even for that she would have accumulated hours.


1,752 posted on 05/16/2006 2:07:02 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: ltc8k6

That's putting it nicely, lol! The father is a pathological liar, and he apparently thinks NOBODY remembers what he says from one day to the next. Bizarre.


1,753 posted on 05/16/2006 2:08:16 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: RecallMoran

Sean: "analysis of the explosive duke developments at the bottom of the hour". I am officially annoyed.


1,754 posted on 05/16/2006 2:08:35 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: marajade; Howlin

>>Then the point about facial hair on the team should have been something that Nifong considered before he felt he should pursue the case.<<

Which if you had been PAYING Attention, you would know he did NOT--

You are proving our point, that you do NOT know what you are talking about. Read up before you come preach your feminazi clap-trap.

We know better......


1,755 posted on 05/16/2006 2:08:35 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: ltc8k6

Looks like you are right. I still don't believe she is a student anymore than I am one there and I live about 1000 miles away.


1,756 posted on 05/16/2006 2:09:17 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Hogeye13; All

Welcome to FreeRepublic Hogeye13.

Sean is making me listen to the toe sucker to hear his breaking news on the lacrosse case. He says 5:30 EDT for the lacrosse news.


1,757 posted on 05/16/2006 2:09:40 PM PDT by JLS
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To: RecallMoran

Ohhh, you're a youngster! My son is going to be a Senior next year.


1,758 posted on 05/16/2006 2:10:58 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: JLS

Thanks to all for the welcomes. I really enjoy this site. Spend way to much time reading it.


1,759 posted on 05/16/2006 2:12:36 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: sissyjane

Is marajade a known contrarian? Seems to be. I got yelled at for calling her a troll. She's trying to be annoying. She may just be posting this way to get things exciting..there is no way anyone is THAT uninformed and perverse.


1,760 posted on 05/16/2006 2:12:43 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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