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Grand jury may consider new charges in Duke case
Raliegh Observer ^ | 5/15/06 | Ben Niolet

Posted on 05/15/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

DURHAM - A Durham grand jury is scheduled to meet today, and the session could mean new charges in the investigation of a reported rape at a Duke lacrosse team party.

Two of the team's players were indicted in April on charges of first degree rape, first degree sex offense and first degree kidnapping. They are accused of assaulting an escort service dancer in a bathroom of a house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. Their lawyers say the men are innocent, and lawyers representing dozens of team members say that no sex or assault occurred at the March 13 party.

But the woman says she was attacked by three men, and Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong said he has been working on bringing charges against a third person.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TODAY? If Nifong decides to submit the case, police investigators and possibly other witnesses will try to convince grand jurors in a secret session that the state has probable cause to bring a case forward. Grand jurors will hear only the prosecution's side of the case. The standard required for a true bill of indictment is far lower than the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard required for a conviction.

IF INDICTMENTS ARE ISSUED, WHEN WILL THEY BECOME PUBLIC? On April 17, a judge ordered the indictments in the lacrosse case sealed. The names of the players who were indicted were not released until 5 a.m. the next day when the players surrendered at the Durham County jail. If Nifong again requests that the indictments be sealed, the law allows a judge to keep them secret until the person is arrested or appears in court.

WHEN WILL ALL THE EVIDENCE BE REVEALED? State law requires prosecutors to turn over all of their case files to defense lawyers, but nothing requires the evidence to be turned over to the public. In open court hearings, lawyers often discuss some of the evidence, but the state's case may not be revealed until trial. No trial dates have been set. When a report on the DNA testing is complete, Nifong is required by law to turn it over to all 46 members of the lacrosse team who submitted DNA samples.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? The cases against Reade William Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are moving forward. Finnerty has a court date in June. Seligmann is scheduled to appear in court Thursday. His attorney, Kirk Osborn, has filed a series of motions challenging Nifong's handling of the case and asking a judge to bar the prosecutor from further involvement.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; wtf
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To: marajade

Your comment was in the context of court testimony.

Victim vs. defendents

Post #1101


1,161 posted on 05/15/2006 8:55:33 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: sissyjane

"the ALLEGED victims ARREST record"

And what about the ALLEGED DEFENDANT'S ARREST record?


1,162 posted on 05/15/2006 8:56:39 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: TexKat

I believe Wendy Murphy trumps Jane Weintraub on the obnoxious scale, and I didn't think that was possible.


1,163 posted on 05/15/2006 8:57:17 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: maggief

semantics semantics... She will be identified by official police report record as a victim, as will the State.


1,164 posted on 05/15/2006 8:57:35 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: sissyjane

Nite all. I am too old to go on 3 hours sleep 2 nights in a row. There was a time I could do that, not anymore.


1,165 posted on 05/15/2006 8:57:37 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: marajade

i do not see much changing in court.

A woman that has claimed the same gang rape and bad beating by three men in her past and then did not show up to answer the follow up questions by the police. Her Dad says nothing sexual happened in that case.

a woman that claimed a husband was going to kill her. Her EX says it was a false accusation.

she has a criminal record: are you aware of that?

nothing changes in court: she is still a woman that can not be believed. She is still a woman that has lied. A woman that has stolen. A woman that makes false allegations.

that won't ever change


1,166 posted on 05/15/2006 8:58:03 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

I guess we'll see won't we?


1,167 posted on 05/15/2006 8:58:41 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: GAgal

That's an interesting line of thought. Something to begin to watch for and take note. Thanks.


1,168 posted on 05/15/2006 8:58:52 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: David Allen

If the alums were smart, they'd be trying to buy the book rights from her now.
_________________________________________

Interesting idea, but she would not go for that. She thinks the notoriety she will get will be the same thing as celebrity.


1,169 posted on 05/15/2006 8:59:25 PM PDT by JLS
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To: marajade

And? Is it your mission to come here and....what? Defend the skank? Tell people they are wrong?

That would be ok if you actually knew something about the facts that are known. Since you don't....waste of time.

Have a nice evening...


1,170 posted on 05/15/2006 8:59:32 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: marajade

Okay
Compare a college boy for noise violations and drinking violations

Alleged Victim numerous DUI's, and Larceny where she gave a taxi-cab driver a lap dance, stole his cab, and tried to run over a Law Enforcement Officer.

Sound even?


1,171 posted on 05/15/2006 8:59:38 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: GAgal
His proof was that Evans used the word "exculpable" and Ted didn't think he would know that word.

Hey Ted, Evans just graduated from college yesterday, not high school.

Ted's gear is still stuck. Stuck not in reverse, not in neutral, but on stupid!

1,172 posted on 05/15/2006 9:00:16 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

thanks

i know what it is like to be falsely accused.

this stripper may claim the one armed man did her 3 ways by the time it is all over


1,173 posted on 05/15/2006 9:00:27 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: marajade

I'm going to bed, and I'm pretty sure you won't miss me.

Goodnight All---


1,174 posted on 05/15/2006 9:01:31 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: pepperhead
Didn't hear him do that.

Neither did I, but then I am not near the tele. You may have been too deeply involved with Freeper marajade.

1,175 posted on 05/15/2006 9:01:37 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat; All
Thanks all for the pings..there's no way I could catch up and read all the posts for today. Can't believe I had to do the college pick up thing.

Tex--I heard Tucker say "Crystal" several times. And Susan Filan didn't even yell at him!!

1,176 posted on 05/15/2006 9:01:42 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: Jrabbit

The only facts that will matter is what facts are presented in Court. What I claim to know or whatever doesn't mean crap.


1,177 posted on 05/15/2006 9:01:53 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: TexKat
Three Nonlacrosse Players in Report

It is unclear why the three nonlacrosse players were included in the sampling.

It's clear why they would test her boyfriend. What's not clear is why they tested the other two. Wonder if one of them had a moustache.

1,178 posted on 05/15/2006 9:01:54 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

"this stripper may claim the one armed man did her 3 ways by the time it is all over"


I didn't know Truman's economic advisor is still alive.


1,179 posted on 05/15/2006 9:02:23 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: maggief

Carry on Maggie--

I give up with marajade--
She's all yours.


1,180 posted on 05/15/2006 9:02:45 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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