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Grand jury may consider new charges in Duke case
Raliegh Observer ^ | 5/15/06 | Ben Niolet

Posted on 05/15/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

DURHAM - A Durham grand jury is scheduled to meet today, and the session could mean new charges in the investigation of a reported rape at a Duke lacrosse team party.

Two of the team's players were indicted in April on charges of first degree rape, first degree sex offense and first degree kidnapping. They are accused of assaulting an escort service dancer in a bathroom of a house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. Their lawyers say the men are innocent, and lawyers representing dozens of team members say that no sex or assault occurred at the March 13 party.

But the woman says she was attacked by three men, and Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong said he has been working on bringing charges against a third person.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TODAY? If Nifong decides to submit the case, police investigators and possibly other witnesses will try to convince grand jurors in a secret session that the state has probable cause to bring a case forward. Grand jurors will hear only the prosecution's side of the case. The standard required for a true bill of indictment is far lower than the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard required for a conviction.

IF INDICTMENTS ARE ISSUED, WHEN WILL THEY BECOME PUBLIC? On April 17, a judge ordered the indictments in the lacrosse case sealed. The names of the players who were indicted were not released until 5 a.m. the next day when the players surrendered at the Durham County jail. If Nifong again requests that the indictments be sealed, the law allows a judge to keep them secret until the person is arrested or appears in court.

WHEN WILL ALL THE EVIDENCE BE REVEALED? State law requires prosecutors to turn over all of their case files to defense lawyers, but nothing requires the evidence to be turned over to the public. In open court hearings, lawyers often discuss some of the evidence, but the state's case may not be revealed until trial. No trial dates have been set. When a report on the DNA testing is complete, Nifong is required by law to turn it over to all 46 members of the lacrosse team who submitted DNA samples.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? The cases against Reade William Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are moving forward. Finnerty has a court date in June. Seligmann is scheduled to appear in court Thursday. His attorney, Kirk Osborn, has filed a series of motions challenging Nifong's handling of the case and asking a judge to bar the prosecutor from further involvement.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; wtf
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To: sissyjane

"You are not informed, and you aren't willing to read back to previous threads to inform yourself, so I'm done."

Do really believe that what is posted on FR is equal as to what evidence will be presented on one side or the other is the same in Court?


1,141 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:01 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: maggief

That is how LE will classify her will they not? A victim?


1,142 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:42 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

So far, we've only heard from the defense




Unless you count the 70 interviews the DA gave at the beginning, and the countless feminazi talking heads. but who's counting??


1,143 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:31 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: daybreakcoming

As the percentage of women to men attending college continues to widen, Duke with 52% female and 48% men is doing okay. I wonder if the male percentage will drop and the women's will increase next year and beyond because of this case? I read that once a campus is 60% female, applications drop off precipitously, and that's why many schools now have affirmative action for males - the new college minority.


1,144 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:38 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: marajade

ALLEGED victim.


1,145 posted on 05/15/2006 8:47:16 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: sissyjane

I don't care what the DA has said in interviews. It only matters what he argues in Court.


1,146 posted on 05/15/2006 8:47:59 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

by your standards no one should say anything until court.

then that makes you here on a discussion thread a contradiction: or are you trying to change everyones mind ?

it's okay for you to float you theories but at the same time, we should not make up our minds or say anything until court.

in some ways you learn more out of court. Rape shield laws will keep most of this womans crazy life out of court. we will probably get a better picture with Nifong arguing constantly to suppress.


1,147 posted on 05/15/2006 8:48:35 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: OrinocoJack

Um Dude, if you look at the official police report. I'm almost possible it would say she is the victim, along with the state.


1,148 posted on 05/15/2006 8:48:44 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

No, I believe she is the accuser, one making the accusation.


1,149 posted on 05/15/2006 8:49:19 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

"by your standards no one should say anything until court."

My standard is that nothing will be considered as evidence as to guilt or innocence until presented in court.


1,150 posted on 05/15/2006 8:50:05 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: TexKat

I heard that. The other night he talked about her job as a sex worker...I love that term, LOL!

He said she was a prostitute...


1,151 posted on 05/15/2006 8:50:19 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: marajade

Correction: we KNOW they are innocent. BIG difference! What a day. I'm done. Nite y'all.


1,152 posted on 05/15/2006 8:50:52 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: maggief

No, I believe an official police report would label her as "the victim."


1,153 posted on 05/15/2006 8:50:52 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

you brought up OJ: is it the race thing that is blinding you?

Norm Early and Ted Williams suffer from the same blindness


1,154 posted on 05/15/2006 8:51:15 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: marajade

>>Do really believe that what is posted on FR is equal as to what evidence will be presented on one side or the other is the same in Court? <<

Of course not, but I've taken the time to read news accounts, the ALLEGED victims ARREST record, the statements from the other players in this case, and have an informed opinion, rather than one based on the opinion of feminazi talking heads.


1,155 posted on 05/15/2006 8:51:36 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: OrinocoJack; Howlin
Howlin, Freeper OrinocoJack would like to be added to your ping list.

OrinocoJack it is Freeper Howlin that maintains the parent ping list.

1,156 posted on 05/15/2006 8:52:15 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: marajade

A 90 percent DNA match
_________________________________________

What is a 90% DNA match? Nobody, other than you, has claimed it was a 90% DNA match with Evan.

In fact the DNA ON the popon nails was NOT a match to anyone. It exclude all but 2 of the lacrosse players.


1,157 posted on 05/15/2006 8:52:55 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

Not by me.


1,158 posted on 05/15/2006 8:53:20 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: TexKat

Ted, who seems incapable of pronouncing a word of more that two syllables, said Evans had obviously been coached. His proof was that Evans used the word "exculpable" and Ted didn't think he would know that word.




1,159 posted on 05/15/2006 8:53:35 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: TexKat

Thanks. Is there a Duke lacrosse ping list?


1,160 posted on 05/15/2006 8:54:32 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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