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Grand jury may consider new charges in Duke case
Raliegh Observer ^ | 5/15/06 | Ben Niolet

Posted on 05/15/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by pissant

DURHAM - A Durham grand jury is scheduled to meet today, and the session could mean new charges in the investigation of a reported rape at a Duke lacrosse team party.

Two of the team's players were indicted in April on charges of first degree rape, first degree sex offense and first degree kidnapping. They are accused of assaulting an escort service dancer in a bathroom of a house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. Their lawyers say the men are innocent, and lawyers representing dozens of team members say that no sex or assault occurred at the March 13 party.

But the woman says she was attacked by three men, and Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong said he has been working on bringing charges against a third person.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TODAY? If Nifong decides to submit the case, police investigators and possibly other witnesses will try to convince grand jurors in a secret session that the state has probable cause to bring a case forward. Grand jurors will hear only the prosecution's side of the case. The standard required for a true bill of indictment is far lower than the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard required for a conviction.

IF INDICTMENTS ARE ISSUED, WHEN WILL THEY BECOME PUBLIC? On April 17, a judge ordered the indictments in the lacrosse case sealed. The names of the players who were indicted were not released until 5 a.m. the next day when the players surrendered at the Durham County jail. If Nifong again requests that the indictments be sealed, the law allows a judge to keep them secret until the person is arrested or appears in court.

WHEN WILL ALL THE EVIDENCE BE REVEALED? State law requires prosecutors to turn over all of their case files to defense lawyers, but nothing requires the evidence to be turned over to the public. In open court hearings, lawyers often discuss some of the evidence, but the state's case may not be revealed until trial. No trial dates have been set. When a report on the DNA testing is complete, Nifong is required by law to turn it over to all 46 members of the lacrosse team who submitted DNA samples.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? The cases against Reade William Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are moving forward. Finnerty has a court date in June. Seligmann is scheduled to appear in court Thursday. His attorney, Kirk Osborn, has filed a series of motions challenging Nifong's handling of the case and asking a judge to bar the prosecutor from further involvement.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; wtf
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From discussion forum ABC Channel 11:

Poster chart1980 wrote:

Did anyone just hear Tucker Carlson ?He said the AV's name, has that been happening? First time i heard it on tv

1,121 posted on 05/15/2006 8:33:57 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: marajade

Staying on topic would be helpful.


1,122 posted on 05/15/2006 8:34:10 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

Well like I stated earlier, we've only heard the defendants' side of the story so far.

It means nothing until its presented as evidence in a court of law.


1,123 posted on 05/15/2006 8:34:55 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: TexKat

nobody has said her name. people got banned for trying to tell us her name at CourtTV boards.


1,124 posted on 05/15/2006 8:35:52 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: marajade

Who are you? Why are you coming to a thread and posting about a case you know nothing about?

Need attention, maybe?


1,125 posted on 05/15/2006 8:36:59 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble

We get to say her name here....and we don't have to post, "IMO"

Great place!


1,126 posted on 05/15/2006 8:38:28 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Jrabbit

No. I'm just sick and tired of posters on FR who think they know the defendants are innocent.


1,127 posted on 05/15/2006 8:38:34 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: TexKat

"Did anyone just hear Tucker Carlson ?He said the AV's name,"

Wow.

Wow.

And I thought Tucker was a wuss b/c of the tie.

ps. Could you add me to the ping list? thanks in advance.


1,128 posted on 05/15/2006 8:38:40 PM PDT by OrinocoJack (Free the Ham Sammich! Disbar Nifong!)
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To: roses of sharon

Come on now, ABC News' Law & Justice Unit is just another branch of the Duke players defense team. (/sarcasm)


1,129 posted on 05/15/2006 8:39:23 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: marajade

many people have made up their mind. they did not mind listening when it was Nifong, Nancy Grace, or Greta Van Susteren talking and saying what confirmed there opinion.

the Defense starts talking and Wendny Murphy and Nancy and others are saying: why are we listening? this means nothing.

the defesne had to overcome the 70 interviews the Distric Attorney went out and did. no one questioned the Distric Attorney. No one had problems calling the duke guys out of control & arrogant & snobbish.


1,130 posted on 05/15/2006 8:39:52 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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To: TexKat

Didn't hear him do that.


1,131 posted on 05/15/2006 8:40:07 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Dr. Richard Kimble
Dr. Richard Kimble still on the run are you or have you been acquitted? :^)

I see that you just joined FR today/tonight.

Welcome aboard!

1,132 posted on 05/15/2006 8:40:18 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

Tucker really said her name?

Good. It seems the worm has finally turned.


1,133 posted on 05/15/2006 8:40:40 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: GAgal
Is there no place between here and a trial that Nifong can be shown to lack "something more", "something in his back pocket", "something he knows that we don't", or whatever those like Ted Willams, Norm Early, and Nancy/Wendy/Lisa continue to say ad naseum?

I think Nifong is required to turn over all of his evidence to the defense this week, unless he gets a delay granted.

1,134 posted on 05/15/2006 8:41:31 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: marajade

Well, whoop di doo! And you, of course, know they're guilty??

You don't even know what she has accused these guys of doing! And you're sick and tired?? ROFL!!


1,135 posted on 05/15/2006 8:41:44 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: marajade
No. I'm just sick and tired of posters on FR who think they know the defendants are innocent.

Up thread you labeled the AV a "victim." Same thing.
1,136 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:02 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: marajade

You are not informed, and you aren't willing to read back to previous threads to inform yourself, so I'm done.


1,137 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:11 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Jrabbit

Actually I don't. But many many here on FR seem to believe they are innocent.


1,138 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:20 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: GAgal

I wonder if anyone in the media will take Cheshire's suggestion and investigate Nifong's lies---nah, never gonna happen.


1,139 posted on 05/15/2006 8:44:07 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: marajade

on most other boards the Duke guys are guilty. i was amazed by the amount of people here supporting or open.

people watch tv and make up their mind. the tv has been cruel to the duke guys. remember the posters and published pictures of the duke guys when they had not even pressed charges against any of them. the first four weeks of this thing the duke guys were made to be sub human. thats why so many support the dancer now: because of what they heard while they were eating their wendys burger


1,140 posted on 05/15/2006 8:44:10 PM PDT by Dr. Richard Kimble
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