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Tension high in Duke caseN.C. stripper hides as TV shows pics
nydailynews.com ^ | April 20, 2006 | TAMER EL-GHOBASHY and DAVE GOLDINER

Posted on 04/20/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by mlc9852

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To: snarkytart
The cell phone calls are all logged and the pictures are all time stamped, too.

The DA was nuts to do this. I think he just didn't want a riot on his hands. They'll be let go and the DA will say he did his job. The Dems will go to the polls and vote for him again because he at least tried to get the little rich kids.

1,201 posted on 04/20/2006 7:15:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Carolinamom

I'm fading fast, folks. Need some sleep. See you tomorrow.


1,202 posted on 04/20/2006 7:15:55 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: LK44-40

Anybody got any idea where you can get a Duke LAX jersey? (I''m thinking it is going to me a must-have summer fashion accessory!)
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I have a 60 something friend in Arizona who when I told him about the spike in sales claimed he was going right to the internet to buy a shirt.


1,203 posted on 04/20/2006 7:17:16 PM PDT by JLS
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Bissey has been embellishing ... I don't know about the cabbie.

That's Kim in the driver's seat? Is that the sweater the cabbie described? Like I said ... I don't know, and I'm listening. So far no one has asked the pertinent questions. They've focused on Seligmann's timeline. I'd find it interesting if two cars were there. I find it very unusual that the escort service left two strippers at a college party without some sort of "security."

We haven't heard much about the AV's timeline prior to the party and after. She was with the boyfriend earlier and called her father for directions, (driven to the party by the boyfriend). The boyfriend was at the hospital and drove her home. That's about it.


1,204 posted on 04/20/2006 7:17:39 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Jrabbit

Yes, he leaves for Ft Bliss in June and Iraq in Sept.....and yes, I am worried sick, but very proud since he volunteered to go...


1,205 posted on 04/20/2006 7:17:56 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: maggief

That was at 12:30. She apparently went back into the house.
Then came back out six to seven minutes later and fell on the stairs.


1,206 posted on 04/20/2006 7:19:58 PM PDT by Krankor (T)
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To: Krankor

If I remember correctly, rape would likely include removing underwear etc.. and I'd guess it would take a little bit of time to redress and you'd be crying or at least visibly upset....not smiling for the camera two minutes later.


1,207 posted on 04/20/2006 7:23:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Carolinamom
I would pay big money to have a seat in that court room during the defense attornys' cross examination of Kim and Crystal.

Wow, that's going to be a major bloodbath, isn't it? I'll bet those evil white (I assume) lawyermen are just going to rough those sistas up somethin' awful.

How much do you want to bet this DA is going to find some way to weasel out of this thing before it hits a courtroom where everybody can see what a travesty it is? And he'll do it in such a way that the cloud of suspicion stays over these poor guys, instead of clearing them. That way all those with a hate-white rich kid agenda can keep their preconceived declarations of guilt.

I wish there were some way for the defense to INSIST this thing go to trial, where the whole world will be able to see this farce get played out.

1,208 posted on 04/20/2006 7:23:46 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Sessions-The immigration bill is a colossal failure. It's a dead horse laying out in the sun.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

"What I AM disputing is his account of the LATER PICKUP of FOUR GUYS at the house at 1:00."


Find a quote where the cabbie says 1:00.

I told you Megyn Kendall said 1:00, later amending her report to around 1:00. Not quoted ... no log.






1,209 posted on 04/20/2006 7:23:58 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Carolinamom

Me too ... g'night.


1,210 posted on 04/20/2006 7:25:01 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Sacajaweau

No, she was smiling at 12:30, then apparently went into the house. The next pic shows her collapsed on the steps.
The pics of her might help. I mean, if her stripper outfit was
attached and buttoned or whatever the same when she first arrived till she left and still the same after she collapsed on the stairs- well, then she wasn't raped.


1,211 posted on 04/20/2006 7:29:41 PM PDT by Krankor (T)
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To: JustaCowgirl
There ain't going to be any trial and no attorney would take the case except a court appointed attorney.

Those Duke boys are confident and I'm sure they took a lie detector's test already (to satisfy their parents) whether we know it or not and they don't have to tell us.

1,212 posted on 04/20/2006 7:30:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: maggief
We haven't heard much about the AV's timeline prior to the party and after. She was with the boyfriend earlier and called her father for directions, (driven to the party by the boyfriend). The boyfriend was at the hospital and drove her home. That's about it.

I agree. It seems clear she arrived with bruises and was very likely intoxicated, judging on the totality of what we've heard. Where she was before and what she was doing is VERY IMPORTANT and we've heard almost nothing on it. All I've heard on this is two points:

(1) the detective on O'Reilly last night who spoke with sources in Durham PD who in turn knew where she was earlier and had been drinking.

(2) the father, who says she called him to asked directions but then hung up saying "nevermind, WE'RE here." Since we know the two strippers arrived 15-30 mins apart, with Kim arriving first, the person in the "WE" must have dropped Kim off and driven away. My guess is it was the boyfriend and/or pimp, and that he figured a bunch of Duke students weren't going to be a problem for the strippers and didn't need to hang around.

The father also says he was with the daughter earlier in the evening and she bought candy and soda for her kids (a real health nut, that woman). But he doesn't say when that was, and I would guess earlier in the evening before the kids' bedtime.

To me, the other very important mystery in the case is what exactly the SANE report says. Amazingly, a horde of investigative reporters has descended on Durham and yet not one of them has managed to get a look at it. The DA has seen it, and I've listened carefully for his characterization of her genital injuries. I've only heard him use the terms "swelling" and "pain." It's the screeching talking heads who have been throwing around terms like "vaginal tearing" and "anal tearing" and "microtears" and I have no reason to believe they have a basis for those statements at this point.

The SANE report may end up being a lot less supportive of the woman's allegations than is speculated, once defense medical experts can examine it.

1,213 posted on 04/20/2006 7:34:08 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: PghBaldy

When's he gonna get that money out of the safe?


1,214 posted on 04/20/2006 7:36:02 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Jrabbit

Do you know which guy is pictured wearing a short sleeve red shirt?


1,215 posted on 04/20/2006 7:36:52 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: maggief
Find a quote where the cabbie says 1:00.

I told you Megyn Kendall said 1:00, later amending her report to around 1:00. Not quoted ... no log.

THAT is MY contention - that is was NOT in fact 1:00 a.m. but some time earlier.

1,216 posted on 04/20/2006 7:37:18 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: maggief

I've been out of the loop. Has there been any word on Finnerty's alibi?


1,217 posted on 04/20/2006 7:38:12 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Neverforget01

What was her hair like before and after she got raped? Having sex messes up your hair....and getting raped must reeeeeeeeeeally mess it up.


1,218 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mlc9852

Perjury is illegal? Filling a false police report is illegal? Sorry bud, in my neck of the woods it seems to be completely legal :(

You're thinking of the good ol' days...


1,219 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:51 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: Jrabbit; mystery-ak

I have 3 sons also-and I survived their childhoods, LOL!

The sad thing is most (maybe not all) of these guys are probably good kids.

Smart boys, good young men sometimes do stupid things no matter what you teach them. It is the testosterone factor. In reality, it could be any of our kids.


1,220 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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