Posted on 04/20/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by mlc9852
The victim, a single mom who turned to exotic dancing to support her two kids, attends North Carolina Central University, a mostly black college in Durham.
She plans to keep a low profile until the students go on trial to avoid inflaming tensions in the black community, where opinion is running heavily against the privileged students.
One of the most hurtful things for the woman about the media circus surrounding the case, the cousin said, is the tendency to assume the worst about her because she is a stripper.
"She's a victim and she's a human being," the cousin said. "Her occupation couldn't justify that a crime like this was committed."
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
LOL. He's like a loss leader for FNC.
bttt
Jerry said that!.....what a jerk he is...
look at the bang up job he did in Aruba.
....and I might add in Iraq drawing troop movements in the sand for all to see...
the Kroger security guard, Angel, said in an interview I read that the car arrived in the Kroger lot around 1 a.m. Even if it was really 1:05 or 1:10, you are making an assumption that they showed up in the parking lot and in the next instant at 1:22 Angel was calling 911.
Also, it could easily take longer than 5 minutes even driving directly there if they hit the lights wrong.
And as to the 5 minutes, I don't think one should assume that she left the house with the intention of driving directly to the Kroger. I would argue when she drove off, the accuser was probably passed out or unresponsive and couldn't tell Kim where to take her home and drop her off, and it is much more likely that Kim was just driving around looking for a place to deposit the accuser, and may have pulled into a couple of grocery or convenience stores before she found one that was open, the Kroger on Hillsborough.
The theory that the two strippers met the accuser's pimp in this claimed "29 minute" window and the pimp beat the passed-out accuser black and blue and caused rape-like injuries, and then had Kim drop her off at Kroger as part of an elaborate plot, makes no sense.
First, Kim told the defense investigators that the accuser never told Kim she had been raped. If she was part of the plot, she would have said the opposite.
Second, Kim and the accuser had never met before that night and don't work at the same escort agency. It is very unlikely they had the same pimp, and Kim probably doesn't even know the accuser's pimp or his phone number so she would never have called him to meet up with them as they were driving away. The accuser was apparently passed out and probably did not give Kim the pimp's telephone number in the car.
And if they somehow did meet the accuser's pimp after they left the house, Kim would simply have dumped the accuser onto him and drove away, leaving the pimp to try to sober her up and get her home.
The reality is, after the 12:53 call the accuser was passed out and couldn't tell Kim where to take her. Kim drove around the neighborhood looking for somewhere to gracefully dump Kim and then go home, and did not proceed directly to Kroger but drove around for 15 minutes before just happening to drive by the well-lit Kroger. And then they sat in the car for a few minutes while Kim tried to get the accuser to sober up and get out of the car, and only when that failed, did she walk into the Kroger and start talking to the security guard.
He's past relevent.
(Thanks for the post PghBaldy ... though I'm glad I missed it. BTW, what's up with Kathie Lee ... didn't hear about her new project but it sure looks like she's got an in with Joan Rivers' plastic surgeon. Yikes!)
He has one day to be right about the plea deal...
And he predicts the father of Joran will be arrested in the Aruba case....
Jerry needs to retire...years ago
What you posted makes a lot of sense.....Hannity is on this right now
Geraldo said two days ago that they would cop a plea by Friday.
Well, tomorrow is Friday....I don't think it's gonna happen...lol
Rita's talking to the cab driver again.
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. . . they put themselves in a position that there might be this kind of consequences.
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Okay, so NOW being STUPID rates 20 years in prison.
Thanks for the insight.
You know, it's very smart for the cab driver to get out on the air and tell his version (although apparently Seligmann's dad had to plead with him to come forward).
If he gets his story out, he is less likely to be subject to threats and intimidation from the pimp and the accuser's crowd. He can tell anyone who approaches him that he already said everything, it's too late for him to come out with a different version.
Great post! I believe the more simple the explanation, the more likely it is to be correct.
Yeah...I just turned Rita on.....same clip they have been showing all day....
Ann Coulter is on Hannity....
Wow! From so many miles away? You're GOOD!
Did the strippers work for the same escort service? I assume so but could be wrong. The LAX called Allure Escort Service for white strippers but got two black strippers. Was Kim more a dancer and Crystal used to one on one's? Is that why they had not met?
We heard that Crystal did not do well when she "tried out" lap dancing. The ex-husband said she wasn't ready for nude dancing some years ago. Perhaps Crystal took something to get over her hesitation. My hunch is the pimp sent out two girls to the LAX party that didn't want to be there and the LAX team hadn't requested.
There is a 29 minutes window that's not accounted for in anything I've read. The cabbie mentions a light skinned black woman wearing jeans and a sweater who get's into the driver's side of a WHITE car. He may be mistaken but he's dead on with other observations so I'm listening ...
Here's the big problem. CASH The pimp didn't get the money. Within that unaccounted 29 minutes did the strippers connect with the pimp via phone or in person telling him they came up empty?
"They were just joking and laughing in inside my car, and everything [was] just fine," he said, of the men's demeanor.
Almostafa said he didn't notice anything unusual or suspicious about Seligmann or the friend who rode with him in the cab. When asked whether he had seen any sign of wrongdoing or any indication that they had been in a struggle, his answer was an immediate "no."
...and making a lot of sense, as usual.
I bet we hear a lot about the "She's just a stripper -- she's going to call the police" comment overheard by the cab driver, but with a lot of negative connotation glossed onto it by the commentators.
I wonder if the way in which he said that was: "She's just a stripper -- SHE'S going to the police?"
Which would suggest that Kim had threatened to call the police just before she got in the car and drove off.
Why would Kim (who remember was not told by AV that she had been raped) threaten to call the police? Two reasons come to mind:
(1) They didn't pay the strippers or took the money back. If true, I still tend to doubt this as a reason for threatening to call the police, because strippers/escorts are not in the habit of getting police involved in their business disputes. On the other hand, after three decades of feminist propaganda about how sex workers should not be stigmatized and are no less moral than anyone else, maybe it has come to that.
(2) She saw that Kim looked beat-up and assumed that some of the guys had pushed her around a bit (but not raped her). She threatened to call the cops on them, but once in the car decides that she did not want to personally interact with the police and decides instead to claim there was name-calling so at least the cops might come by and hassle them.
Remember, Kim is waiting in the car out front while the AV is at the back door. Kim does not see the AV fall down the steps, smearing her nail polish on the railing, and sustaining even more fresh cuts and bruises and apparently knocking her unconscious for a few minutes. Finally, someone had to carry her back to the car, just a few minutes after Kim had seen the AV under her own power walk around back to get her shoes.
And I don't think strippers call 911 only for name-calling. That was to punish the guys for something else, either taking their money or, as Kim might have wrongly believed, that they had knocked around the AV a little bit.
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