Attorney: No Plea Deal for Duke Player

abc11TV.com ^ | April 19, 2006

[panthermom]

Ya know, it really doesn't matter what SHE DID, the only thing that matters is what THEY DID. Get with the program! (sarc)

[Locomotive Breath]

This should work for you.

http://www.primatecenter.duke.edu/

I went to Duke for 9 years and then taught at a state land grant for 14. I can promise you that all universities (with a very few exceptions) are so PC these days that any university would have pounced on the opportunity to throw the team under the bus.

[rocklobster11]

So she had time to paint her nails? Would those be the 4 fake nails she replaced in the bathroom? Perhaps she spent an extended time in the bathroom because in her drunken state she decided it was a good time to replace some of her fake nails? Either that or she was brutally raped for 30 minutes and the first thing that came to mind was not going out with bad looking nails.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Clarabelle the Clown would make a better DA than this turkey.

[OakOak]

The latest search warrants for the boys room haven't been made public yet.

The Defense lawyers are really upset because they have NOT been provided with any info on the Photo Lineup or Identification made. State law mandates the results and they say they have nothing.

Nifong also made a smart remark yesterday. When told that the Defense lawyers and players said they are waiting on the DNA results from the latest tests, Nifong said, Really that's News to me.

[panthermom]

All these years I've been preaching to my kids, grades, grades, grades, the need to go college, yet the more I read and hear about colleges, the more I think I don't want my kids anywhere near these idiots.

[maggief]

Many of the photos taken on the back porch show pink splotches, which the defense says is undried nail polish. They claim the accuser was polishing her nails in the bathroom between 12:10 a.m. and 12:30 a.m. - - not being raped.



http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4091290

[Steve_Seattle]

"You could argue that something might have happened in that period between 12:10 and 12:30. "

Yes, but it is extremely likely that it did NOT involve Seligmann. One photo shows the girls dancing at 12:01, another shows them walking out of the house at 12:04. At least two or three minutes would have passed before they were talked in to returning and went in to the bathroom, which takes us to 12:07. Seligmann made his first phone call at 12:07, then at 12:09, 12:11, and to the cab company at 12:14. In order to catch the taxi a block and a half away, he would have to leave the house by about 12:16. He entered the cab at 12:19, was at the ATM at 12:24, got some fast food somewhere, and checked back in at the dorm at 12:45. According to the DA's timeline, the rape would have started at about midnight, and lasted 30 minutes. There's no way that Seligmann could have participated. The most likely scenario, consistent with the photos, is that when the girls walked out the door at 12:04, Seligmann realized the show was over. So he got on his phone and called a cab within minutes, and left.

[OakOak]

Man, this case gets more bizarre EVERY DAY!

Check out this quote from TODAY's News & Observer:

"Nifong has said the woman can identify at least one attacker, but he has not discussed his case against Finnerty and Seligmann."

ONE attacker ? What did the other guy do, give moral support?

Source: http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/430430.html

[Hatteras]

Coach K's ship is not any tighter run then the next ship. Go to a couple of Carolina & State student websites. They've got pictures to prove it. The difference is that Duke just wins a lot of basketball games.

[justshutupandtakeit]

This is trivial for the Treason Media when compared to its significant crimes against the People. After decades of anti-American lies, attacks on Christianity, attacks on patriotism, attacks on defenders of our Nation, attacks on our Forefathers, shoving faggotry down our throats, defending perversity all down the line THIS makes you mad? LoL

[Locomotive Breath]

My son just decided to go to Hampden-Sydney College in VA. It's been voted one of the top ten politically incorrect colleges in the country. There are islands of sanity.

[Steve_Seattle]

The more pertinent photos are the ones that show the girls dancing at 12:01, and walking out the door at 12:04. Seligmann's first cell phone call was at 12:07, followed by three other calls, the last of which was at 12:14, to call a cab. He was in the cab by 12:19. He could not have been involved in a rape, even if there was a rape.

[OakOak]

Steve, Your timeline ignores the late photograph of the woman smiling and getting something out of her purse.

She ran out of there and barely escaped with her life we were told.

If someone has been, as reported, kicked, beaten, strangled, raped, and sodomized.. you don't stop (or pause) to feel through your purse and again - the SMILE.

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[Steve_Seattle]

"If someone has been, as reported, kicked, beaten, strangled, raped, and sodomized.. you don't stop (or pause) to feel through your purse and again - the SMILE."

Several posters have noted that rape experts can argue all sorts of things about that, and that a momentary apparent smile in a photo might actually be a grimace or an expression of pain. I prefer to argue from the photos that create a timeline incompatible with Seligmann participating in a rape.

[Howlin]

I have NEVER in my life seen such a travesty on EVERYBODY'S part.

It's just damn depressing.

[connectthedots]

This was posted last night. Very interesting. Looks to me like the police are not going to be helping the DA if this case goes to trial:

I just finished watching Bill O'Reilly a former detective said his contacts on the Durham PD said they are not happy with the DA rushing this case.
They feel the DA did not allow for all the information to be gathered.
Also, this detective said the police he spoke with said they interviewed people that were with the accuser before she went to the party, and they all said
she was INTOXICATED, and she has a credibility issue (SHOCKER).

To me this is the truth because I noticed the Durham chief of police was rolling his eyes to the ceiling while DipThong(thanks Michael Savage) was holding one of his little media conferences a couple of weeks ago.
Also, someone posted that they also noticed at that same presser, when the C.O.P was asked a question about the investigation he made a comment
like, 'the DA says investigation is moving along, that means its moving along.' (something like that).
I remember someone posted the comment on the forum, because they thought it was odd, and was an indication the C.O.P was not happy.
Very perceptive, because now it's been mentioned by the former detective on O'Reilly that the Durham Police are not happy.
1,678 posted on 04/19/2006 8:44:06 PM PDT by snarkyta

[Steve_Seattle]

To finish my thought - there is nothing about her searching her purse that is incompatible with her being raped. She might be looking for a cell phone, a bandage, an address book, kleenex, etc.

[connectthedots]

How about a link?

[snarkytart]

Yes, experts can argue anything, but more than not, jurors have COMMON SENSE when it comes to these types of situations.

Let's not forget THE ALIBIS of the indicted.

There is NOWAY this slut is telling the truth. The evidence so far does not support her statements about what happened. Lets not forget there is no DNA