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Microsoft, Linux and Patents
AP Lawrence ^ | 04/05/2006 | AP Lawrence?

Posted on 04/05/2006 8:39:22 AM PDT by luthers_inkwell

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To: antiRepublicrat

Sure, start with the first link from DU. Seems to fit in perfectly with this thread's parent article, to wit:

Knowing Their Politics by the Software They Use
By STEVE LOHR

Published: July 5, 2004


In a campaign season of polarization, when Republicans and Democrats seem far apart on issues like Iraq, the economy and leadership style, it is perhaps not surprising that the parties find themselves on different sides in the politics of software as well.

The Web sites of Senator John Kerry and the Democratic National Committee run mainly on the technology of the computing counterculture: open-source software that is distributed free, and improved and debugged by far-flung networks of programmers.

In the other corner, the Web sites of President Bush and the Republican National Committee run on software supplied by the corporate embodiment of big business - Microsoft.

The two sides are defined largely by their approach to intellectual property. Fans of open-source computing regard its software as a model for the future of business, saying that its underlying principle of collaboration will eventually be used in pharmaceuticals, entertainment and other industries whose products are tightly protected by patents or copyrights....


421 posted on 04/07/2006 11:06:40 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Sure, start with the first link from DU. Seems to fit in perfectly with this thread's parent article, to wit:

And this, one of the most conservative sites on the net, runs on free software. What's your point? That some idiot wants to equate politics with software?

422 posted on 04/07/2006 11:10:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
Even if it was a joke, it was a poor attempt to distract from the fact OBL is in fact entitled

No, it was an attempt to show how absurd your question was. OF COURSE he can use it, DUH! He can also go buy a copy of MS Windows, but that's okay because Bill makes money then, right?

423 posted on 04/07/2006 11:12:21 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
LOL, look at the last 150 posts from the cybercommunists on here if you want to rag someone about being civil.

I looked. I see responses to your attacks. Are you going to respond to the factual lies and misrepresentations I caught you on, point for point?

oo bad they all get failing grades when it comes to telling the truth though.

Let's go with the most clear-cut from my earlier post, no weael room: VMWare/Linux, Beowulf/free software, Stallman and patents, hacker sites for security updates, and Torvalds/GPL3. Show me how those aren't lies and misrepresentations from you.

424 posted on 04/07/2006 11:17:51 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

LOL


425 posted on 04/07/2006 11:26:29 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Like I've already said, NASA could have contracted Cray to build clusters, the radical leftist Stallman is expectedly opposed to software patents if not all patents, and Torvalds did flip flop on Stallman's new license, first saying absolutely no, then very possible. All very clear cut, obviously, you just want to muddy those waters for Stallman et al.


426 posted on 04/07/2006 11:31:44 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
He can also go buy a copy of MS Windows

Not legally, if he's in Iran right now. But he can download free linux to his heart's content.

427 posted on 04/07/2006 11:36:11 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: MadIvan
Do they offer LiveCD's?

If so, that'd be perfect--I could pass 'em out like nothing at school.

Though I'm not big on Debian-based, anything that plants the seed is a good thing ;)

428 posted on 04/07/2006 11:37:22 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Does that count--or are we counting direct statements in the thread?

If so, I believe we have the other one (DNC--Linux). That'd mean I'll change his report card accordingly.

429 posted on 04/07/2006 11:42:00 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Good Point!

I did that with Slax when I had to use Linux off a live CD. It's a pain in the butt, but necessary.

430 posted on 04/07/2006 11:43:04 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
some idiot wants to equate politics with software?

Yep, that's what Stallman does, and they invite him to the UN all the time to speak on it. 75 percent of all open source uses his license too. I think you even said it was closer to 80 percent, yourself.

431 posted on 04/07/2006 11:43:53 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Oh No! Those damned

***copyleftists***




went global!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

432 posted on 04/07/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: Golden Eagle

1) Your link points to this thread. Why?

2) Your post about Knoppix on that thread was a series of questions that you obviously did not know the answers to.

I'm sorry if you're mad at me for not giving you the attention you crave today. Love stinks, don't it?


433 posted on 04/07/2006 11:46:06 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Yes, they offer Live CDs. The last Ubuntu packs I received had both Live and Install CDs.

Regards, Ivan


434 posted on 04/07/2006 11:53:43 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ya hya chouhada! Dune fans, visit - http://www.thesietch.com/)
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To: Golden Eagle
Like I've already said, NASA could have contracted Cray to build clusters

"Could have," but that's not the point. You are wrong and we were right, a Beowulf MUST use free software. Building a cluster with non-free software is BY DEFINITION not a Beowulf cluster. From the Beowulf site:

"Beowulf Clusters are scalable performance clusters based on commodity hardware, on a private system network, with open source software (Linux) infrastructure."
The definition of a Beowulf cluster contradicts your statement "Lies that Beowulf clusters couldn't exist without free software."

#1 shot down.

the radical leftist Stallman is expectedly opposed to software patents if not all patents

As the USPTO was against software patents, so is Stallman, but Stallman wasn't forced by a judge to change his views. Contrary to your statements, there is NO evidence he is against all patents. He has never made a statement to that effect. Any statement where he just said "patents" was in the context of software patents.

#2 shot down.

Torvalds did flip flop on Stallman's new license, first saying absolutely no, then very possible

He said absolutely no to a couple of new terms in the draft GPL3, and still says absolutely no. He has not changed his position. The only thing is that he (unlike you) admits the GPL3 is a DRAFT, and therefore subject to change, therefore subject to changing the parts he objects to, possibly to something he agrees with. A person cannot logically state absolute opposition to a license that doesn't even exist yet.

#3 shot down.

All pretty clear cut. You lose on all. But you forgot to address Linux/VMWare and hacker sites for security updates. Care to do those and get shot down again? Or do you want to just admit defeat by default?

435 posted on 04/07/2006 11:55:59 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: MadIvan
Thanks!

I had to register with Launchpad first. Not too bad though. ;)

436 posted on 04/07/2006 11:58:04 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Here's that link to more of your lies, since of course they're everywhere:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536740/posts


437 posted on 04/07/2006 12:00:05 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat

LOL, you didn't shoot down anything, just further proof you like big government over business, refuse to admit Stallman hates software patents if not all patents, and refuse to admit linus torvalds went from saying no way to very possible on Stallman's new license. That's all you did, obviously.


438 posted on 04/07/2006 12:04:21 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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Not legally, if he's in Iran right now.

Do you want to admit a lie or just proclaim ignorance?

iranexpert.com

Date: 04/07/2006 14:59:51

Business Report

Iran closes Windows as it ditches Microsoft and embraces Linux

Iran has become the latest country to edge towards ditching the ubiquitous Microsoft computer operating system in favour of the open-source Linux solution, even if its refusal to abide by copyright laws means that the Islamic republic does not pay a penny to Bill Gates.

At the same time Microsoft offered more than 60 governments the key to its Office desktop suite yesterday as the world's leading software maker faces growing competition from open-source rivals such as Linux.

...

"We would have to pay a lot of money," said Sephery-Rad, noting that most of the government's estimated 1 million personal computers and the country's 6 to 8 million computers were being run almost exclusively on the Windows platform.

"Secondly, Microsoft software has a lot of back doors and security weaknesses that are always being patched, so it is not secure. We are also under US sanctions. All this makes us think we need an alternative operating system."

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Iran is afraid of using Windows because they always pirate it, and that's illegal to the rest of the world. They know if they go into the WTO they'll have to pay for it. How do you pay for something that you can't get anyway?

439 posted on 04/07/2006 12:06:07 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle

Bye, snookums...you might have to get along without me this weekend.

You'll be okay though. You have your teddy bear with Billy G's face printed on it to keep you company.


440 posted on 04/07/2006 12:11:55 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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