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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part II)
FOX ^ | 3-25-06

Posted on 03/24/2006 9:00:43 PM PST by silent_jonny

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To: kevkrom
The Pickler cleans up pretty good and the blond so doesn't hurt.

Then she opens her mouth and ruins it.
5,441 posted on 04/14/2006 8:59:29 AM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Part of another interview with Bucky:

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1183501_3_0_,00.html

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Any one performance this season you wish you'd had a chance to do over?

''Oh Boy'' [during 1950s week]. I kind of wish I wouldn't have done it. Or I think I could've done a better job with it.

What went wrong?

I have no idea, really. When I first heard the song, I was ready to go with it. I don't know if I lived through it so many times I finally got tired of it. When it came time to do it, I just wasn't feeling it. I wasn't real happy with the outfit I had, just nothing felt right. And I think it showed.

Speaking of your image, I know you took some heat in the first week of finals when you sang ''Superstition,'' because you were sporting a hairstyle that Simon compared to Jessica Simpson's. I know we never saw that look on you again, so was that a stylist-driven decision?

Of course! I sat down in the chair — it was our first time with a stylist. He was like, ''Have you got any ideas?'' And I was like, ''I just grew it. You went to school for it, so do what you can.'' And then they fluffed it out like that. The whole time before I went on, I was like, ''Does this look too poufy? Too big?'' [All the contestants] were like ''No, no, no, no. It looks good.'' And after I got done I remembered, Oh yeah, this is a competition. [Laughs] It was either all the way or nothing, so after that I took care of my hair myself.

What did they use to achieve that unfortunate look?
They took a couple curling irons, flat irons, all kinds of irons. [Laughs]

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Be honest: Now that you've been eliminated, who do you think is going to win this season?
If I have to give you my honest opinion, I know you'll think I'm crazy, but I think the lead changes weekly. After every audition every week, there's a different leader. Sometimes the leader has been in the bottom three, they maybe just get through one week, and then two weeks later, they'll be on top. I really think it's that close.

Fair enough, but let's say tomorrow turned into Freaky Friday, and you were going to wake up with another contestant's singing voice: Who would it be and why?
Being the kind of music I do, the only other contestant who'd do that kind would be Taylor, so I'd have to pick him. Not that he's any better than anyone else there.


5,442 posted on 04/14/2006 9:01:04 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: SirLinksalot
I'm too young to remember Joe Cocker. I recognize the name but that's about it. I'm not sure if I could even list anything he did. I was probably just on the edge of that era. :)

For all of Simon's griping about Taylor and his behavior on stage while singing, I would like to know if Simon would ask Mick Jagger if he were drunk or on drugs if he were appearing on idol? (and yes he probably is/was during a lot of his performances) But Jagger does some goofey moves himself and THAT is who he is. So, why not let Taylor be who HE IS?

5,443 posted on 04/14/2006 9:12:33 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: SirLinksalot

Buzz is everything in marketing and Simon would be stupid not to promote an album. The album would go platinum but it might happen through non-traditional methods rather than the record company formula.

Plus, look at Taylor's endorsement potential:

1) Grecian Formula
2) Jack Daniels
3) White Guy dancing videos
4) Fashion
5) Cars
6) Instruments

etc., etc..


5,444 posted on 04/14/2006 9:12:48 AM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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To: SirLinksalot

There are quite a few young people posting on the AI boards who love Taylor too. I honestly think that with more opportunity to hear good music that makes you feel good there will be more who will love Taylor's style of music. Part of the problem is that the younger kids today haven't been exposed to real music but over saturated with the likes of Britney, the various boy bands and all the other crappy stuff that is called music today.

I know that when Taylor sang Trouble Ray LaMontagne's album was about 163ish on Amazon and it jumped to 41 overnight. That should tell the PTB that there is a market out there for good music.

I had never heard of him before but after hearing the song I checked him out and bought the cd myself. It's really good. I also discovered artists like Amos Lee, Marc Broussard, Jack Jackson, Ben Harper, and quite a few more out there because of Taylor. I have spent lots of $$$$$$$$$$ rebuilding my music collection too thanks to the discussions of who Taylor should sing for 21st century week.

The more people hear these artists the more they would actually like their music. There's a reason that the music industry has seen a decline in sales, it's because the music industry left us for the easy buck. Make good music again and we'll spend our money on it.

Look at all of the guest artists they have been getting. It's the oldies and all of the remakes are of the oldies, the American Standards, the hits of the 50's, the legends, etc. The boomers and Gen x'ers have money and remember when it was all about the music.


5,445 posted on 04/14/2006 9:17:28 AM PDT by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Netizen
Mick Jagger hell, Simon needs to go back and watch Freddie Mercury! Taylor was sedate and very conservative in comparison. Queen was known for their flamboyance and theatrical productions. Freddie was the QUEEN of all Queens too. ; )
5,446 posted on 04/14/2006 9:20:56 AM PDT by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: CajunConservative
Good post!

Another thing regarding cd sales. I have bought more CD's in the past year due to idol than in the past 8.

The teens are downloading music and not buying much cd's lately especially what with the ipods. They want their music on the go and the ipod travels a lot easier and more compact than a cd player.

5,447 posted on 04/14/2006 9:23:12 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: CajunConservative

Simon would have asked Elvis if he were drunk too, I guess.


5,448 posted on 04/14/2006 9:24:22 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: SirLinksalot

I downloaded the full version of that Bad Day song and it's damn catchy. I have to replay it a few times before I'm ready to hear something else.


5,449 posted on 04/14/2006 9:25:52 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: SirLinksalot
A mere 143 items related to dumb-as-hair Kellie...

Even for a columnist, that's harsh.

5,450 posted on 04/14/2006 9:29:23 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: mystery-ak
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5,451 posted on 04/14/2006 9:31:52 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Netizen

I have also purchased more CD's in the last few weeks too. I still have more to get too.

I know that downloading is the current trend but the quality is not the same. I like to purchase a hard copy and also download the mp3 simply because I know that electronic media does crash.


5,452 posted on 04/14/2006 9:33:56 AM PDT by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: maggief
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5,453 posted on 04/14/2006 9:34:51 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: CajunConservative

Oh I agree about the quality of cd's being better. I just meant that the teens are more into quanity than quality. My son stopped buying cd's when he got the ipod. I know lots of teens that have stopped buying cd's.


5,454 posted on 04/14/2006 9:42:12 AM PDT by Netizen
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5,455 posted on 04/14/2006 9:43:03 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: SirLinksalot

The reality puts Simon in a difficult situation. There is knowledge of the vote totals (at a minimum it is directionally accurate) out there. He is doing his best to undermine his marketing nightmare with comments like "that was ridiculous" when he really meant "that people like you is ridiculous". If it goes down as I think it will (Taylor going out #4 leaving Katharine, Kellie and Chris as the top 3) then the show is proven to be completely rigged. So, does he let it ride or do the pull the "producers option" lever and give the people what they don't know they want? Simon knows better....of course.


5,456 posted on 04/14/2006 9:43:46 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: SirLinksalot
It could be that those who adore Taylor's style are those who grew up on Joe Cocker in the late 60's, early 70's and miss/are nostalgic for that era. The fact that Taylor's hair is GRAY makes him even more identifiable ( the above 40 crowd now considers him one of their own even when he's still a young man ). They hate what current pop music has become ( note the decreasing viewers of the Grammy Awards). American Idol cuts a wide swath of demographic and I might be wrong because I suspect most of those voting for Taylor are in the age of 40 and above (me for instance ).

Wanted to respond to this part explicitly. I'm very close to this description. I'm 37 so a right-in-the-middle Gen X'er. I love music and have everything on my iPod from Chopin to The Cure to the Allman Brothers to Smashing Pumpkins to Pink Floyd to The Tragically Hip. I abhor popular music. Formulaic, boring, no talent, over-produced, poorly written, non-instrumental crap. What draws me to Taylor is his passion for music and artistry. It pours from his soul (thus Soul Patrol). You can see it on stage that he was born to do this. Give me a passionate person any day over one that is "designed" to just make music through crappy music.

5,457 posted on 04/14/2006 9:51:30 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Netizen

You can buy the songs you like and skip the album filler which is the good thing about I Pod. It's what you put on the unit that matters.


5,458 posted on 04/14/2006 9:53:16 AM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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To: CajunConservative
I know that downloading is the current trend but the quality is not the same.

Depends on where you go. I use allofmp3.com (Russian). It's cheap, legal (do a Google search), and you can get varying quality all the way up to CD. I have all of my music on my iPod and it is all using the LAME coded (Alt-Preset-Standard) which is a variable bit rate (VBR) around 192 kbps. I run it through very high quality earphones (Westone UM1's) and also through my Surround Sound system. I'm not a golden eared audiophile but I'm pretty critical.

5,459 posted on 04/14/2006 9:56:37 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: misterrob

True but as mentioned the quality is lacking on the ipods, but teens don't seem to care. Then again, a lot of the 'fillers' on Clarkson's cd have become #1's. I think the same might happen with Carrie's cd. There are several really good songs on there. But, I understand what you're saying. Once in a while I dislike a song enough that I won't buy a cd if its on it. Or in the past (tapes or records)


5,460 posted on 04/14/2006 10:01:17 AM PDT by Netizen
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