Skull discovery could fill origins gap

Yahoo (Reuters) ^ | Fri Mar 24, 11:02 AM ET

[BedRock]

It's amazing how many Luddites show up just to ignore the evidence.

There is no refusal to accept technological change here, simply a calling for more concise proof from the scientific field before something is touted as "virtual fact".

In response to your statement:

It is amazing how many gaps there are if science has so much "evidence".

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" Dna does not evolve does it? It only mutates into a disease?"

Into a disease? That's a new one.

[PatrickHenry]

DNA mutates into toenail fungus, placemarker.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" just like a Whale is not an animal, but a fish."

A whale is an animal. So is a fish. A whale is not a fish.

[Dimensio]

The fact is that man can have mammal characteristics but not be an animal,

Humans not only have "mammal characteristics", they are mammals. All mammals are animals, therefore humans are mammals.

just like a Whale is not an animal, but a fish.

This statement is incorrect for multiple reasons: Fish are animals, and whales are not fish.

[Coyoteman]

Me too. I'd like to know if the cranium has eight bones just like mine and every other person living in Ethiopia today.

Bones of the cranium:

Frontal
Parietal
Occipital
Temporal
Sphenoid
Maxilla
Nasal
Zygomatic
Mandible
Ethmoid
Lacrimal
Palatine
Vomer
Inferior nasal concha

Ear:

Maleus
Incus
Stapes

[Dimensio]

Perhaps Fester is suggesting that he and "every other person" in Ethiopia are lacking many of the bones that you listed.

[Hoplite]

Humans not only have "mammal characteristics", they are mammals. All mammals are animals, therefore humans are mammals.

Cue Nelson Muntz.

= )

[b_sharp]

"What's "zinthanropus"? Google gives no hits.

- Try Zinjanthropos.
- Zinjanthropus. It was spelled wrong, being in a creationist post.
- Try Zinjanthropus.

My colleagues have all asked good questions, but a more important one would be 'Have you tried Hare Krishna'?

[Fester Chugabrew]

When tools are found in the immediate vicinity of bipedal hominids it is a fairly clear sign the bones are those of people. Or do Jane and Koko communities abound throughout the planet?

[Gumlegs]

a Whale is not an animal, but a fish.

Can you show us the gills on a whale?

By the way, you still haven't gotten around to telling us how many legs a locust has, whether a hare chews its cud, whether bats and birds are the same, and where the evidence for a world-wide flood is.

[b_sharp]

"It's amazing how many Luddites show up just to ignore the evidence."

But they do such a bang-up job!

[fortheDeclaration]

Wow, a diagram!

Now there is some real proof.

LOL!

[Gumlegs]

Give Fester his due. It wouldn't surprise me if his cranium was indeed eight bones.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Bones of the cranium:

Occipital
Parietal (2)
Frontal
Temporal (2)
Sphenoid
Ethmoid

Does this "missing link" have all of these, just like my skull and those of everyone else who lives in Ethiopia?

[b_sharp]

"Would these scientists describe three DIFFERENT species? Of course they would! And it would ALSO be ridiculous."

Probably not. You see, determination is based on quite a number of different attributes of the skulls. Just because you would find it impossible to recognize their placement in the series does not mean that scientists would.

[King Prout]

Dna does not evolve does it? It only mutates into a disease?

incorrect. most mutations are irrelevant, neither positive nor negative in consequence, indeed imperceptable in the phenotype of the mutant organism.

heritable mutations add up over generations, leading to differentiation inside a population. many of these substantially mutated subgroups are selected against by environmental and other factors, but some are not.

such accumulated mutation through multiple generations sometimes eventually leads to divergent descendant strains - this is called speciation through imperfect replication and (natural) selection, aka "the theory of evolution".

[Fester Chugabrew]

The two pectoral fins on a fish are a clear indication that fish are our bipedalar ancestors. Just think how many millions of years it took for that unintelligently undesigned process to work itself out!

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"just like my skull and those of everyone else who lives in Ethiopia?"
When did you move to Ethiopia? And when did their skulls have different numbers of bones than everybody else?

[King Prout]

not really new - just an abbreviated version of the old "loss of data/mutation only damages" fallacy.