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How did the Midwest get those perfect squares that you see when you fly over them? (Vanity)

Posted on 03/19/2006 9:24:27 AM PST by SamAdams76

Ok, this is driving me nuts and I can't find this in Google searches.

During the past week, I took a plane trip to the west coast and back and had window seats both times. I notice that most of "fly-over country" features a grid of near-perfect squares from approx. the Mississipi River to the Rocky Mountains.

Apparently these are all roads that are in a criss-cross pattern, intersecting perfectly to create these squares. On most of these squares you can see a single farmhouse with some additional buildings that might be barns, chicken houses, silos, etc.

Was this by design or by accident?

You really notice these over states like Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, etc. Just an endless parade of perfect squares.

Of course, when you get back east of the Mississipi, the landscape becomes mostly woodlands and irregular winding roads as opposed to perfectly straight roads.

Can anybody here explain?


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To: muawiyah

"When you fly over the Indiana/Ohio state lines you can see where the surveys don't quite match up."

"They missed by thaaat much, Eighty-Six."


61 posted on 03/19/2006 10:45:51 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: SamAdams76
Funny that I just posted this pic to a photo forum asking why the circles. My granddaughter shot this a few weeks ago from a plane window on the way to Mexico. It was faded out, so I tried to make it better. Thanks for more answers to my question; I am getting several on the photo group. I was starting to think in the twilight zone when I started studying these photos, you know, that Linda Moulton Howe on Coast to Coast who is always reporting on crop circles. Yes, Linda, there really are crop circles :-)


62 posted on 03/19/2006 10:49:28 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL! :)


63 posted on 03/19/2006 10:50:23 AM PST by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: righttackle44

If you have a 5 X 5 mile square meet up with a 6 X 6 mile square, they can match perfectly only every 30 miles.


64 posted on 03/19/2006 11:01:10 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I didn't know that. Thank you.

McVey


65 posted on 03/19/2006 11:21:54 AM PST by mcvey
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To: mcvey
Oklahoma has section roads and every mile the north south section roads take a jog to confirm to the longitude.
66 posted on 03/19/2006 11:32:03 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: PeteB570; SamAdams76
In the Midwest, a township is laid out into 36 sections, one square mile each, separated by the roads. Even as towns grow out into these farmlands and are divided into blocks, the system is preserved with straight through streets exactly one mile apart. The 640 acre section is standard for most of the midwest. The 6 by 6 square mile townships served the additional function of dedicating two sections (16 and 36, I believe) to financing education for the township. Even today, the midwest produces some of the best achievement to cost ratios in the country.

When the growth is gradual, the quarter section lines (half mile by half mile) may even be included. Midwesterners prize order.

Some of the posters have alluded to the well-planned cities in the west which follow the same grid pattern. Salt Lake City is perhaps the best example. The Mormon leader Brigham Young who planned the city basically transplanted the idea from the midwest. In the early 1840's, the key city in the Mormon faith was Nauvoo, Illinois. It may have even rivaled Chicago in size in that era. Both Young and the church founder Joseph Smith were natives of New England who disliked the haphazard method of street layout prevalent there.

While Nauvoo had the standard grid pattern, Salt Lake added the improvements of wider streets (the standard being enough space to turn around a wagon team easily) and standard naming. I beleive most of the Mormon founded settlements have a Main Street running east and west and a Center Street running north and south (it may be the other way around. Mormon Freepers should feel free to correct me). Each street north of Main is 1st North, 2nd North, etc. Each street south of Main is 1st South, 2nd South, etc. The same system follows with Center Street. The first street east of center is 1st East, the 1st street west is 1st west. Any address such as 650 W. 1st North can be determined to be exactly 1 block north and 6.5 blocks west of the junction of Main & Center-- in just about any town.

Streets with names which do not follow the system were either made in new developments or in towns which weren't necessarily founded by Mormons. I believe Ogden, Utah, for instance, is somewhat of a hodgepodge as it was originally a railroad town in which the Mormons tried to introduce their system somewhat later.

67 posted on 03/19/2006 11:48:33 AM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: holymoly
Many farmers use GPS when cultivating fields.

What is really cool about this new technology is the overlay capacity.
Yield is measured by coordinate at harvest time. A particular area of the field may be deficient in nutrient. As that portion is picked, the onboard GPS and computer track what is ending up in the hopper. Then, that data is used to proportion how much fertilizer is applied to that particular area the next season. Don't understand it all, but have a good friend who works for one of the ag equipment suppliers who has developed this technology.

68 posted on 03/19/2006 12:56:49 PM PST by Knute (W- Yep, He's STILL the President!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Texas is on the "metes and bounds" system, not township and range.

We were exempted from the Northwest Territories Act of 1787, when Texas entered the Union in 1845, because it had already been substantially surveyed for Spanish land grants and other settlement.


69 posted on 03/19/2006 2:16:20 PM PST by Rte66
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To: SamAdams76

Irrigation.

Dry areas use circular fields because you can sink and artesian well in the center, and have a boom with sprayers that rotates slowly around the
central feed.

I'm not sure whether they plow in a circular pattern, or in rows approximating the irrigated circle.


70 posted on 03/19/2006 2:40:51 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Yeah, it's nice to know you can't really get lost when out driving in the country in Oklahoma. You always know there will be a road up ahead within the section.

I honestly thought the jogs in the roads were because of the different land runs.

You know that Indian Meridian Rd. in OKC runs along the Indian Meridian for Oklahoma (and several states north)? It is about 97.14W. The Initial Point in Oklahoma is down near Davis, OK. The Indian Baseline is about 34.30N. All the township and range measurements radiate from that. And it's not even aligned on the latitudes and longitudes that run through the state, which I thought *forever* that it was.


71 posted on 03/19/2006 3:05:53 PM PST by Rte66
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To: patton
Yes, but - what are the wierd bare patches in west texas/New mexico?

It's called the "Desert"

72 posted on 03/19/2006 4:03:51 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: SamAdams76
Was this by design or by accident?

Ever try drawing a fractal from ground level??

73 posted on 03/19/2006 4:26:08 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: Aliska

It's been awhile since I took a plane trip.

Thanks for the view.


74 posted on 03/19/2006 9:16:05 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Rte66
Texas is on the "metes and bounds" system, not township and range. We were exempted from the Northwest Territories Act of 1787, when Texas entered the Union in 1845, because it had already been substantially surveyed for Spanish land grants and other settlement.

Very interesting! I didn't know that.

75 posted on 03/19/2006 9:23:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Take away Light, and what's that leave?)
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To: Cedar
It's been awhile since I took a plane trip.

Same here. It was my granddaughter. My son gets a free trip to Mexico every year, so he took his sister and niece (my granddaughter) along to Cabos this time. She came back with some gorgeous photos; they had a good time, but it is extremely expensive down there. She got a shell purse with some money my son won and it was like $175. When they went to play golf, she had on a tank top, she wears modest ones if any can be considered modest, maybe this one showed some skin at the waist. That violated the dress code, so my son had to buy her a shirt for $150. Bikinis on the beach but no tank tops on the golf course. Maybe it is a way to rip off tourists; I don't see anything wrong with it.

I haven't flown for years either.

Thanks for the view.

You're most welcome. I asked my granddaughter if she cared if I posted it. I'll pass the word along. The photo was almost unsalvageable as shot because of the glass window and no polarizer (which may have been useless anyway). I tried to fix it as best I could.

76 posted on 03/19/2006 9:28:17 PM PST by Aliska
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To: SamAdams76

When I was a kid much more of Nebraska was still range/pasture/hay land.

But, the rise of center-pivot irrigation has been overwhelming. These days it's practically a cornfield clear to the Rockies.

Why?

Because, though it was once erroneously known as 'the Great American Desert' there is a fresh-water ocean under the Cornhusker State. It's called the Ogallala Aquifer .

It's huge, and runs clear to Texas.


77 posted on 03/19/2006 9:32:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Take away Light, and what's that leave?)
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To: EternalVigilance
fascinating info...how far down from ground level? Strange that the land is not eroding and lots of sink holes cropping up. Maybe someday Nebraska will float down to Texas.
78 posted on 03/19/2006 10:35:20 PM PST by michgirl (warrioress against rats and fleas)
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To: michgirl

heh...it's way underground...don't think you need to worry. ;-)


79 posted on 03/19/2006 11:21:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Take away Light, and what's that leave?)
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To: SamAdams76

The county roads were plotted to follow section lines.


80 posted on 03/20/2006 9:07:10 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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