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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread NINE
See our "who's who" page! ^

Posted on 02/24/2006 9:12:25 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

The FreeRepublic Saddle Club - Who's Who *pics*

This is a horse chat thread where we share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the previous threads we have had a great time talking through lessons, training, horse lamenesses, illnesses and pregnancies... and always sharing pictures and stories.

I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and MissTargets will now be pinging everyone most mornings. Let MissTargets and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

So... like the previous threads, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.

Previous threads:

The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - thread ONE
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread THREE!
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread FOUR
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread FIVE
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread SIX
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread SEVEN
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread EIGHT

New folk and occasional posters, jump right in and introduce yourselves, tell us about your horses, and post pictures if you've got them!


TOPICS: Hobbies; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: ofcourseofcourse; saddleclub; thehorseyset
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To: 300winmag

Wow Winmag, all this stuff is SO cool. I'm thinking you're gonna have quite a few new customers outta this. Thanks for telling us about it!


4,181 posted on 04/25/2006 8:43:35 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
...The dog got hold of it...

LOL!!! It looks like the dog's been DRINKING out of it! {just kidding!}

I'm with you though on buying new stuff when the old stuff still works. I'm still using the pommel and cantle bags I made from fanny packs about 10 or 12 years ago. I bought a new set of nice black nylon saddle bags with a build-in cantle bag between them not too long ago but have yet to use them. I still like the old ones.

4,182 posted on 04/25/2006 8:48:49 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; HairOfTheDog
Here's pics of Bob's latest NB shoe job compared to the first one. I went ahead and had him put borium on the heels because we might be going to this place that has lots of bare rock and hills. But it's good for just general traction too. The borium is that rough, dirty looking stuff that's on the last inch of the heels. You don't want it on the toe because it would mess up your break over. It was kinda interesting watching him put it on there...

Left front, 1st time/2nd time...


You can see he's still got some toe overhang, but the inside rim of the shoe is closer to where it needs to be when compared to the first time these shoes were put on. The toe overhang should eventually go away as the flare on the front of his hoof grows out. He trimmed up the creases of his frogs quite a bit this time. I don't really understand why, and I really didn't want him too, but I didn't say anything. Next time I think I'll ask him not to.

Left hind, 1st/2nd...

Left front, side view...


You can see the amount of toe overhang and how it's undercut so that it's at the same angle as the rocker on the toe of the shoe.

4,183 posted on 04/25/2006 10:45:13 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; HairOfTheDog
Here's pics of Bob's latest NB shoe job compared to the first one. I went ahead and had him put borium on the heels because we might be going to this place that has lots of bare rock and hills. But it's good for just general traction too. The borium is that rough, dirty looking stuff that's on the last inch of the heels. You don't want it on the toe because it would mess up your break over. It was kinda interesting watching him put it on there...

Left front, 1st time/2nd time...


You can see he's still got some toe overhang, but the inside rim of the shoe is closer to where it needs to be when compared to the first time these shoes were put on. The toe overhang should eventually go away as the flare on the front of his hoof grows out. He trimmed up the creases of his frogs quite a bit this time. I don't really understand why, and I really didn't want him too, but I didn't say anything. Next time I think I'll ask him not to.

Left hind, 1st/2nd...

Left front, side view...


You can see the amount of toe overhang and how it's undercut so that it's at the same angle as the rocker on the toe of the shoe.

4,184 posted on 04/25/2006 10:45:13 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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Sorry 'bout the double post. My clicker got stuck.


4,185 posted on 04/25/2006 10:46:06 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: FrogInABlender; HairOfTheDog
Wow Winmag, all this stuff is SO cool. I'm thinking you're gonna have quite a few new customers outta this. Thanks for telling us about it!

Here's a quick look at the Wilderness Trail Safe backpacking holster. It's basically a padded envelope that protects you and the handgun from each other. There are a number of D-rings, and velcro straps and flaps that let you carry it a number of ways:

pack1.JPG

This holster requires a two-handed draw. One hand to open the fastex fastener, the other to draw the handgun. Velcro strips close the top part of the holster, and grasping the grip opens them up. Here's how a handgun would look inside the holster:

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There is a seam that separates the gun from an open area that can take a spare magazine, or a couple of speedloaders.

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The cover flap is also padded, and has a velcro closure. Small, flat items like maps, cash, etc. can be stored there.

The multiple attach points leave a lot of things to your imagination. A couple of straps, and you have a shoulder rig. That's probably a better way to carry than on the waist. Attached to a saddlebag, and the gun departs if the horse does.

One note of caution: since the handgun is completely enclosed, it is also hidden, and some states consider that "concealed carry", even if the holster is out in the open.

But this is still the only item I've seen that provides protection for both the gun and the person while riding or backpacking. It was designed especially for the wilderness.

Next topic: anybody interested in hydration packs? (For you, not the horse, unless you have a vey clever horse.)

4,186 posted on 04/25/2006 10:48:59 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: 300winmag
Heh, my horse likes to drink out of the garden hose, so I'm sure he could figure it out. IF he didn't bite the end off of it first. ;o)
4,187 posted on 04/25/2006 10:53:13 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: 300winmag

I like that a lot... when I've carried it in my saddle bag, it's just been carried in a pocket of my bag, sometimes in it's zipper rug, sometimes wrapped and padded with a towel.


4,188 posted on 04/25/2006 10:53:44 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: FrogInABlender

Interesting... Not sure I understand the overhang, if it's just flair, I guess I'd file it off. I'll be interested to see if it really goes away in time.


4,189 posted on 04/25/2006 10:58:51 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 300winmag

I'm reminded of the time I actually LOST my dad's airweight .38 in the woods while wearing it in a fabric hip holster with a strap and snap. It was so light I didn't notice it was gone and I was VEY nervous retracing my steps until we found it. For awhile after that, I prefered my larger Model 19 .357. It was heavy enough I knew it was still there.


4,190 posted on 04/25/2006 11:03:24 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
From what I understand. the true angle of the hoof that the horse WANTS to grow at can be seen at the top 1/3 of the hoof below the coronet band. Any difference in angle below that is flare. When you get the flare grown out, you should have a straight line from the coronet band to the edge of the hoof. If you look at the side view of Bob's foot, you can see the difference in angle between the hoof at the coronet and the rest of the hoof. If you were to draw a straight line down from the coronet to the toe of the shoe, like this...

That's how his hoof should end up when all this toe flare gets grown off. You don't want to file it off because you'd end up with a hoof wall at the toe that was too thin to protect the lamina. That's my layman's understanding anyways.

4,191 posted on 04/25/2006 11:14:27 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: FrogInABlender

My shoer's coming this afternoon. I'm gonna ask him about all this. :~]


4,192 posted on 04/25/2006 11:23:07 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 300winmag

Concealed ok, here. Our guys don't want to know. My horses could probably drink out of it too. Stuff they learn at summer camp from the kids. It could be worse though. One of the other borders horse is hooked on coolaide.


4,193 posted on 04/25/2006 11:58:26 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: HairOfTheDog

Cool! What time's he coming?


4,194 posted on 04/25/2006 12:02:23 PM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: 300winmag

I do want a knife like Hair's, for sure


4,195 posted on 04/25/2006 12:06:47 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: HairOfTheDog; FrogInABlender

I'm at Jenny's and we got to see your video's:)

We liked "and there's the 'hosses'":)

Becky


4,196 posted on 04/25/2006 12:17:16 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: FrogInABlender

I'm going to save this post number and have my farrier come in and look at it before we shoe next time.

Becky


4,197 posted on 04/25/2006 12:19:25 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: FrogInABlender

Did you put some chaulks on the heels?

Becky


4,198 posted on 04/25/2006 12:20:23 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: CindyDawg

Congratulations! It sounds like you are finally on the down hillside of getting started.


4,199 posted on 04/25/2006 12:29:03 PM PDT by RebaJ
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

That's the borium. He put it on with the forge. It comes in rods like welding rods, but he had cut his up into smaller pieces, about an inch or so long. To put them on, he put the shoes in the forge first and heated them to red hot. Then he took a punch and made a small dent in the middle of each heel, I guess to provide some bite between the shoe and the piece of borium. Then he sprinkled some white powder, which I assumed to be flux, on the heels, then layed the pieces of borium (he called it "Drilltek") on the powder and put it back in the forge until the borium melted to the shoe, then he quenched it. It was kinda cool to watch.


4,200 posted on 04/25/2006 12:31:58 PM PDT by FrogInABlender (Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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