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Question about Corporate motivations to raise money for the United Way

Posted on 10/19/2005 1:14:48 PM PDT by Axelay

I have tried to google for something of substance that would explain why corporate entities spend so much time and energy coming up with ways to 'persuade' employees to donate.

At my place of employment, it's common knowledge that the exec sitting in the corner office is going over the list of those who donate and those who do not making 'mental notes'.

Personally, I have never donated, and never will. The more they pressure me to do so, the more opposed to it I become.

I really want to know _why_ they try so hard. It has to be more than simple tax incentive, and you will never convince me that any corporate entity truly cares about who is helped and who isn't. If that were the case they would put forth similar efforts for things like storm aid, and the canned food drives and such, but they barely mention those.

Do they get kickbacks? Is the tax right-off really that attractive to them that they devote entire sections of HR to promote and track individual donations?

I got a personalized email (a form to be sure) prompting me to log on to a website to set up my donations ffs. There has to be more to this than meets the eye.


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KEYWORDS: unitedway

1 posted on 10/19/2005 1:14:50 PM PDT by Axelay
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To: Axelay

OH LOOKY!!! It's "Mr. Melbell" I talk about him all the time and HE finally came to check us out!!! :D

At any rate, the question he's asking is one we are both very curious about, as both of our places of employment are running United Way drives and I get funny looks because I didn't pay my $2 to have casual day today.


2 posted on 10/19/2005 1:18:54 PM PDT by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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To: Axelay
I've often wondered the same thing myself. Maybe the companies get a tax write off? Or maybe the execs get some kind of swanky thank you package - like a club membership or something?

The one answer that almost certainly weighs into it is good PR, but you're right there's got to be more to it than that.

By the way, Welcome to FR.

3 posted on 10/19/2005 1:27:09 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Axelay
It would be interesting to know how many employees have had their voluntary contributions, a/k/a fair share withheld from their paychecks against their will ...
4 posted on 10/19/2005 1:31:14 PM PDT by caryatid (Please let me decide where my "fair share" will go ...)
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To: Axelay
Isn't that annoying? I have often wondered what was up with that myself! I figured it must make them look good to say "ABC Corp contributes $1 million to UW"...all be it the employees money or half of it. The company my hubby works for has their own fund they "encourage" employees to donate to which they match 100%. The part I like is the match plus we get to pick which charity the money goes to...as long as it is a 501 legal charity, they will match dollar for dollar. The thing I like the least is that the minimum amount to donate is $100 and they do the drive right at Christmas time!!
5 posted on 10/19/2005 1:31:48 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (Criminals feed on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Axelay

I used to be a machinist at a large defense contractor and the personnel director came out and gave us his United Way speech at the end of which he said that if he raised x number of dollars he got dinner out. I thought it was a particularly stupid thing to say to a bunch of cynical machinists.


6 posted on 10/19/2005 1:42:49 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: Axelay
Many years ago Mr Gs boss was hit on by his banker. Now, no one would ever think you might not get a loan if you didn't donate, right? right?

Some years later I had a boss whose higher ups were pushing for 100% contributions from the branches. When I refused, he gave a donation in my name.

7 posted on 10/19/2005 2:21:02 PM PDT by Grammy
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I don't know how it's done now, but many years ago, I worked for a large electric utility now known as TXU. They began the United Fund drive by showing all the employees a tear jerk film about the plight of the poor. (we lost our coffee break if memory serves.) Their plan was titled "One day's pay the American Way." At the time, my husband had been drafted into the Army, I had to drop out of college to pay our bills. My day's pay was 13 dollars and 10 cents. I didn't refuse to give, but objected to signing the "pledge card" that would allow them to deduct it from my pay. I said I'd give it in cash. Reason: My religeous faith required acts of charity to be annonomous. I was threatened with termination since my boss and his company wouldn't be eligible for winning their name on a silver tray for having their employees 100%. I couldn't tell you how mad my boss was. The end of the campaign was celebrated with a PRAYER breakfast where the largest donor CEOs were feted with food and accolades for having fostered such generosity in their employees. I've never given them a dime since.


8 posted on 10/19/2005 2:31:46 PM PDT by texaslil (and)
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To: Axelay
FYI, this is not a new concept. When I started working for Peat Marwick (now KPMG) in NYC in 1986 the partners demanded 100% participation in employee donations to United Way. I smelled a rat and immediately declined.

The partners were not pleased with me. It didn't matter to me because I knew I was right. My decision had no impact on my career. :-)

9 posted on 10/19/2005 7:44:42 PM PDT by UnBubba
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It would appear, from some friends of our's, that the incentive to push these drives is that the companies are given a goal by the United Way, and anything they collect above that amount, they are allowed to keep (without telling the donating employees, of course) or do with as they please.

Can anyone confirm this?


10 posted on 10/20/2005 9:38:28 AM PDT by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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I used to have payroll deduction (reluctantly). That ended when the UW of San Francisco (where my money was going) decided to black-list the Boy Scouts. I immediately stopped my payroll deduction.

For the past 15+ years, I have written a check payable to BSA. I turn it in in the UW envelope. Each year I get a Thank You card from BSA. No one, at the company, has every complained. If they did, zero, zip, nada, $0.00 UW contribution.


11 posted on 10/20/2005 11:03:42 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Axelay

I used to have payroll deduction (reluctantly). That ended when the UW of San Francisco (where my money was going) decided to black-list the Boy Scouts. I immediately stopped my payroll deduction.

For the past 15+ years, I have written a check payable to BSA. I turn it in in the UW envelope. Each year I get a Thank You card from BSA. No one, at the company, has every complained. If they did, zero, zip, nada, $0.00 UW contribution.


12 posted on 10/20/2005 11:04:39 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Axelay

You think it's bad in the corporate world, you ought to work for the government. It's annoying as hell. What irks me is that so many employees use their regular work hours to get involved in the drive to get people to contribute. It seems wrong to make the taxpayers pay to have people do this. I have no problem with any employer providing a means for an employee to have money held back every paycheck for a charitable group of his or her own choosing, but to turn it into a program is ludicrous.


13 posted on 10/20/2005 11:09:05 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Axelay

United Way is part of the U.N


14 posted on 11/13/2005 1:49:12 PM PST by cope85
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To: Casloy
What irks me is that so many employees use their regular work hours to get involved in the drive to get people to contribute.

IF the worker is charging to a government contract while working on United Way stuff, he/she is breaking the law and could go to jail. Seriously.

15 posted on 12/12/2006 12:40:17 PM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Axelay

My old employer (a bank) used to put the strong-arm on all of its employees to donate. I told my boss he could look at my pay stub and take note of how much was already being deducted. I figured if it wasn't getting done on the large chunk I was already signing over to the Government, then the problem wasn't on my end.


16 posted on 12/12/2006 12:46:01 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Casloy

I think all taxpayers ought to deduct at least $5.00 on their IRS form for the donated time. Certainly the employees time along with the expense to print the United Way forms using employees names should be considered a contribution in itself. Or are employers giving your names to the United Way to print the forms? Right!


17 posted on 12/12/2006 12:51:43 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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