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Dating After Divorce: Venturing into The Dark Abyss
www.elitestv.com ^ | Dr. Hu Fleming

Posted on 10/01/2005 7:36:14 AM PDT by teldon30

Guys, we all know that feeling. That queasy one in the pit of our stomachs, a date with a new lady. No big deal when we were 18, or 21, or maybe even single at 30. But we’ve been married for a while, forgotten how to date and forgotten more about that other species known as females than we now know. Also, truth be told, if we’re completely candid with ourselves, we’ve been spoiled and pampered, accustom to having someone take care of us, make sure that our socks matched, that we didn’t embarrass ourselves at that party. Sex was a given, no need to shower, shave, appear desirable, or even interested. And definitely no need to think about her feelings, wants, desires, or idiosyncrasies on a second by second basis.

Fast forward to the present. You’re separated or divorced. You want to date, want to meet that lady of your dreams, or maybe lots of ladies of your dreams. But marriage or at least divorce has left a bad taste. You’re feeling uncertain about females, uncertain about yourself. You’re not even sure if you’re desirable anymore, or what the present day modern female of the species is looking forward or considers desirable. And, to top it all off, if you’re really candid with yourself, you have no idea how to go about this thing called dating. Heck, you may not be sure you even want to try.

Do women have the same issues? Yes, to a degree. However, women are far better prepared for the single life after marriage than men. Women live and breathe relationships. They’ve thought about them their entire lives. They’ve prioritized their relationships, and their feelings all along, as many of them clearly like to tell us, and so, understand themselves and their situation. Also, women possess a much more evolved emotional support system with lots of girlfriends. They have shoulders to cry on, emote to, get advice from, and generally are well positioned to move forward to this next phase of their life.

What do we men have? Squat- Less than squat. We don’t tend to think about the big “R” word, relationships. We probably didn’t think much about ours. We’re essentially anti-social, with few, if any male friends. Sure, we can talk about the football game or the stock market. But talk about our feelings of insecurity, what we don’t know about women or dating? Hardly! So, we’re generally ill – equipped to approach that most sophisticated and evolved of all animals, the single American female.

So, what’s the secret to getting back to a normal, healthy social life? Sorry, there are no secrets. We’re all different and what works for Bob will be different than for Ted. However, there are seven basic rules that apply to all of us,

The Seven Secrets of Life for the Divorced Guy: (OK, we could do 10, but it doesn’t have the same ring to it!)

1. Take time to know yourself

You’re single again, and just aching to get back out there and mix it up. Hold on there, Trigger. Yes, it’s easy to date and easier to find a female or females to spend time with you. But, do yourself and your partners a favor. Take some time off. Ideally, take a year or so after your marriage to get to know yourself again, your likes, thoughts, and feelings. After all, you’ve not been You for a long time; you’ve been We, perhaps for as long as you can even remember.

It’s critical that you get back that sense of you as a valuable, individualized person. You need to know you before you’re any good for anyone else. Trust me, taking a little extra time initially will pay off later. You’ll be happier with your dating. It will be more meaningful, and you’ll be making fewer mistakes. Take it from someone that made lots.

2. Define and clearly articulate your goals

Ok, don’t laugh here, but true story. When I came out of divorce, I sat down and wrote down the attributes of the female I wanted to meet, date, and be with, in detail, right down to hair color and body shape. Stupid? Yes, but it did provide a focus, and something to plan for. Of course, as I began dating, I found that I really didn’t know myself that well, as most of what I thought I wanted, I found to be wrong/incompatible/silly/impossible, you take your pick.

However, it is very important to define, in a general way, what you’re looking for in dating. Do you want to play? Have fun? Meet someone serious? Have a buddy only? Someone primarily for sex? Whatever you want, you need to be honest with yourself. You need to be able to look at that scraggly face in the mirror in the morning, mussed hair and all, and feel comfortable that you know what you want, and are in the process of finding it. Otherwise, you’re going to find that dating is stressful, unfulfilling, and generally a pain in the behind. And, you certainly won’t get high marks from the female crowd, which hurts all of the rest of us poor unsuspecting males out there, trying to bravely make our way.

So, do us all a favor here in the male kingdom. Know what you want, go get it, and leave the rest alone.

3. Be candid and direct

Guys, we all like low stress. We hate controversy, and wasted energy, especially in dating. What’s the secret to minimizing stress and drama? Ok, one key is avoiding females that like drama, but that’s the subject of another column. Rather, it’s being candid and direct.

I know, I know, you don’t want to tell her at the dinner table that her dress sucks. No, that’s not being candid and direct, that’s being stupid, otherwise known as being honest. A totally different concept.

Rather, what I’m talking about is don’t play games. Don’t tell her you want to get married eventually if you don’t or are not sure. Don’t tell her you want kids, hers included, if you don’t or don’t yet know. Don’t feign a love of sushi if fish, raw or otherwise, is simply not your thing. Rather, put yourself in situations that you like and are comfortable. Do not mislead the female of the species, they get quite a bit more than antagonistic later on when they find differently. And, they will find out the Murphy’s Law of Dating. If It Can Go to Crap, It Will. . It’s far better to spend time with ladies that like the real you than sexy ones that seem fun, but aren’t really compatible.

Men, it may seem counterproductive and take some effort, but you will bring far less angst on yourself in your encounters, as well as earn the everlasting respect of your fellow female journey mates by being candid. They may even add you to the rare Good Guy list and who knows, maybe even set you up with friends that are far more interesting.

4. Be positive

She’s late for dinner. By two hours. Smile. She’s whining, now sending back her second undercooked entree. Smile, and laugh. She tells you about her evil ex-husband and how all he wanted was sex, for the entire three hours of the meal. Smile, even if you have to think about how lucky he is to not be here.

Dating is by definition, stressful. It’s two people, who don’t know each other, who are uncomfortable with each other, and perhaps even with themselves, auditioning in the biggest game in life, a relationship. It’s also a wonderful experience, a chance to meet many, many wonderful people, learn something new about each and every one of them, and grow as a person.

There is no room for being negative, no room for false drama. We’re all trying our best. So what if the date wasn’t perfect, Most aren’t. But, you’ve had another evening with another wonderful person, learned a few things and had a few laughs. And soon, you will meet that one, or two, or multiple, people that you really can’t wait to spend time with.

So, be positive. Convey a positive attitude. Nothing is sexier to a lady than a guy that’s happy, confident, positive, and lets her know that he’s happy to be there with her. If you’re positive, she’s going to find it hard to be less than positive as well. If not, think positive- she’s gone from your life in less than three hours.

5. Learn from each encounter

You use the same three jokes on her that you’ve always used. She frowns, and stares at her food for the rest of the evening. Did you ever stop to think that maybe that off color joke about your ex is not such a good idea? Or, you arrive home from yet another date, feeling beaten and unfulfilled. Did you ever stop to think that perhaps dating women that are aggressive, forceful personalities, that leave little in the way of dialogue or interest in your needs, is probably not what you’re seeking? Yet, you keep going out with that type?

Learn from each experience. After all, you do not have all the answers. We each come out of divorce like babes in the woods. We know nothing, and each experience gives us new knowledge. But, it’s only knowledge if we learn from it.

So, ask yourself after each date, or female, what did I like about her? Dislike? What lessons learned can I take to my next dating relationship? What have I learned about myself that will be important when and if I develop a serious relationship? Don’t assume you have all the answers. I didn’t, and still don’t. But, I’m learning.

6. Navel-gaze

Do more than simply pick lint from your bellybutton. Ladies, sorry if this offends you, but it’s an article addressed to guys. And guys, navel-gazing, as you well know, doesn’t mean straining to see over that well developed stomach area. It means introspection. Dating is an evolutionary experience. The more we date, the more we learn about ourselves. And, the more we learn about ourselves, and what we want from a relationship, the happier we will be, and the happier we will make our partners.

In female vernacular, we aren’t as in touch with our feelings as women are. This is debatable, and the subject of another column. However, it is most certainly true that we men don’t often take the time to consider our feelings. We’re good at thinking, but avoid feeling. So, don’t be afraid to navel- gaze.

7. Have fun

Dating is fun. Meeting delectable members of the opposite sex is fun, hopefully, more than fun. True, there can be a fair amount of drama or associated issues. But, don’t get sidetracked. Don’t engage. Remember, dating is fun. Life is fun, and you should have fun with the entire experience.

So, get out there, enjoy yourselves, make mistakes, learn from them, smile and above all, have fun!


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To: Fierce Allegiance

Well, sorry. I got married at 18 in 1967 and had not dated more than once or twice before I met my future husband.

I am shy and would never ask a guy out. Good grief! What if he said no?

I don't wear my wedding rings anymore now that I am a widow. He would know I was not married by that. Also, he would know that I was not already spoken for if I showed interest in him.


261 posted on 10/02/2005 2:19:25 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: scott7278
That's ok. My dog Harm and I are doing just fine.
262 posted on 10/02/2005 2:20:38 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: apackof2

LOL! Yeah, I know. Same with these two. Since they were diametrically opposed on the scale of what to look for in a man, I thought I was safe after Disaster #1. WRONG!

I am sticking with my dog now. He is far more interesting and loving. He would never let me down or hurt me.


263 posted on 10/02/2005 2:23:27 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: apackof2
However I say when in doub, go for it!

That takes alot of balls, especially for someone who spent the last decade or two supressing that very instinct. Like GWB says, it's hard work (absolutely no pun intended).

264 posted on 10/02/2005 2:25:35 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Dry white toast, please, ma'am.)
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To: Goodgirlinred
Get an Electrolux. They last a lifetime. You won't have to worry again.

That's what I've heard from several people. Thanks for the recommendation!

265 posted on 10/02/2005 2:26:32 PM PDT by scott7278 ("He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!")
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To: scott7278

"Feel free to get in line! ;)"


ROFL!!!
Stay cocky...and you'll stay single ;o)


MM


266 posted on 10/02/2005 2:27:23 PM PDT by motormouth (Good Grief!!!!!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

You are a red-blooded conservative American FReeping male, nothing is impossible for you!


267 posted on 10/02/2005 2:27:30 PM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: Goodgirlinred

I was just kidding. I'm glad to hear that you're doing fine.


268 posted on 10/02/2005 2:27:42 PM PDT by scott7278 ("He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!")
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To: motormouth
Ya think? One wanted my money and the other wanted to be "friends with benefits." I had never even heard that phrase before.

My Alaskan Malamute/Siberian Husky/ Lab cross (Lt. Cmdr. Harmon Rabb a.k.a. Harm) is much better company and only asks to be fed twice a day with multiple snacks in between. Oh, and a ride in HIS SUV whenever I go out. LOL!
269 posted on 10/02/2005 2:28:47 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: teldon30

First rule for older folks on a first date: don't get falling down drunk.


270 posted on 10/02/2005 2:29:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: motormouth; Goodgirlinred
Stay cocky...and you'll stay single ;o)

I know. I'm really not cocky, BTW.

271 posted on 10/02/2005 2:30:50 PM PDT by scott7278 ("He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!")
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To: scott7278

I knew that. ;)


272 posted on 10/02/2005 2:32:19 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: scott7278

You are welcome. I bought their carpet shampooer, too; but I have not learned the trick to getting out the mud stains left by the dogs. :(


273 posted on 10/02/2005 2:34:59 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred


Yeah, I think so!

I STRONGLY believe theres LOTSA great men out there..just waiting to be found. And you'll find 'em when the times right! :o)

LOL I cant even take my newfie out in my car anymore..she doesnt fit in the back seat anymore!

MM


274 posted on 10/02/2005 2:35:14 PM PDT by motormouth (Good Grief!!!!!)
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To: scott7278

"I know. I'm really not cocky, BTW"


Im sure youre not...Just couldnt let that comment go without giving you some teasing! :o) I actually thought it was quite clever! LOL

MM


275 posted on 10/02/2005 2:37:05 PM PDT by motormouth (Good Grief!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred

"Do you kill snakes?"


One time, my beloved little kitten, Psycho, brought a dead rat into my bedroom at 5am.
I called my ex-beau and said, COME OVER NOW....HELP!!!

He said, "no one ever died from disposing of a dead rat."

I should have left him then and saved myself a lot of trouble.

(Psycho is still here...she's just not allowed outside anymore)


276 posted on 10/02/2005 2:37:12 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Normal enough to know that I'm weird...But too damn weird to do anything about it!)
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To: motormouth

LOL! That is the reason I traded my 2004 Avalon XLS in for a 2005 Highlander LE 4WD! Harm could not turn around in the backseat of the Avalon anymore. He likes his SUV much better. I, however, don't care much for the payments on it! :(


277 posted on 10/02/2005 2:38:59 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Yes, and luckily you got rid of the other rat!


278 posted on 10/02/2005 2:42:23 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred


Nah, with the gas prices now, I may just sell my car, invest in a good sleigh, and let her pull me where I have to go! LOL

MM


279 posted on 10/02/2005 2:47:30 PM PDT by motormouth (Good Grief!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred

;-)


280 posted on 10/02/2005 2:48:47 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Normal enough to know that I'm weird...But too damn weird to do anything about it!)
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