[birbear]

Marino would be my pick as the #1 quarterback of all time. Anyone who thinks championships are an accurate indicator of a QBs talent and value to his team should consider this: John Elway won two Super Bowls with the Broncos long after he had passed his prime -- and at a time when his contribution to the Denver team were secondary at best.

I dunno. I'd have a hard time picking between Marino and Montana. I think Marino had more raw talent as a QB than most other QBs...but Montana had such a light touch that ANYBODY could catch his passes.

Thus, I think Marino is only "great" if he has experienced receivers catching for him. But Montana becomes "great" with lesser receivers.


Which begs the question... would Montana (and Young) have the numbers they had if they weren't throwing to Jerry Rice?

Would Jerry Rice be as great if he were catching throws from a second rate QB?

hmmmmm

[savedbygrace]

You can't have a quarterback list and leave Sonny Jurgenson off. He's probably had more TD passes of exactly 80 yards than any other quarterback in history.

And let's not forget DB Pat Fischer of the St. Louis Cardinals. That little guy had more courage and more impact per cubic inch than just about anybody, Ronnie Lott included.

[Alberta's Child]

Thus, I think Marino is only "great" if he has experienced receivers catching for him. But Montana becomes "great" with lesser receivers.

I don't think this is true at all. If anything, it was Montana who had the better wide receivers on his team throughout his career, along with good tight ends (Jon Frank, Brent Jones) and one of the best pass-catching running backs (Roger Craig) of all time.