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VANITY - The Best Football Players of All-Time - VANITY

Posted on 09/14/2005 2:23:26 PM PDT by One Proud Son

QUARTERBACKS: (1) Johnny Unitas (2) Dan Marino (3) Joe Montana RUNNING BACKS: (1) Jim Brown (2) Walter Payton (3) Barry Sanders WIDE RECEIVERS: (1) Jerry Rice (2) Don Maynard (3) Randy Moss DEFENSIVE LINEMAN: (1) Joe Greene (2) Howie Long (3) Randy White LINEBACKERS: (1) Dick Butkus (2) Jack Lambert (3) Mike Singletary DEFENSIVE BACKS: (1) Ronnie Lott (2) Paul Krause (3) Ken Houston


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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Could you cover him? Could anyone you know cover him?


341 posted on 09/15/2005 4:13:11 AM PDT by One Proud Son
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To: spectre

Bradshaw had what Joe Namath had -- charisma.


342 posted on 09/15/2005 4:16:23 AM PDT by One Proud Son
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To: jwalsh07

"Otto Graham's record as a winner is unparalleled in Professional Football. That is the mark of a great quarterback."

No, that is the mark of a great team. The quarterback doesn't have to be the leader. (cough, cough, Baltimore Ravens, cough)


343 posted on 09/15/2005 4:25:47 AM PDT by One Proud Son
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To: Aloysius88

"There was contact on every play," he said. "You got the stuffing beat out of you, not like this pantywaist stuff today." - Chuck Bednarik


344 posted on 09/15/2005 4:29:49 AM PDT by One Proud Son
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To: danamco
Why???

He's better.

Not more talented...just better.

345 posted on 09/15/2005 4:35:01 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: CIDKauf
Elway could of won more if he hadn't choked. Marino - I don't know about that guy - he seemed to have a choke issue too. Unitas - different era and different tactics imho.
346 posted on 09/15/2005 5:40:14 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Labyrinthos

I really didn't want to chime in on this, but I can't help it. Tom Cruise IS a homo. He had an affair with a Mexican porn star, who revealed it to the tabloids. Cruise sued him for defamation. Later the suit was dropped. The point being: lawsuits like that are publicity stunts that try to take the air out of the "rumours" in the tabloids. Everyone knows that truth is an absolute defense to defamation. Which is why Cruise had no case against his lover. His lover told the truth. I mean I guess he could always come back and say that he's still not a homo, but at that point I'm not sure what the definition is....


347 posted on 09/15/2005 6:19:52 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: dfwgator

"...How could you leave off LT for linebacker?..."

He was out snorting a rail.


348 posted on 09/15/2005 6:31:10 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!)
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To: kabar
Oh, absolutely.

But just realize something here. If you look at all the other defensive players on the Giants in the late 1970s and early 1980s, you won't find very many of them who got noticeably better after LT showed up in 1981. Harry Carson was one of the top linebackers in the league before LT got there, and Brad Van Pelt didn't suddenly get better at his left outside linebacker position just because LT started playing on the right side.

349 posted on 09/15/2005 6:32:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: dfwgator

"...I would put Sweetness number 1 for durability, and considering the fact for most of his career he didn't have decent offensive lines to work with. Scary to think what he could have done with a decent OL...."

Yur're right. Had he had a decent O line, Emmitt Smith may never have broken his record. I still blame Mike Ditka for not allowing Peyton an oppurtunity to score a td in Super Bowl 20. He should have had the one the Fridge got and maybe the one Jim McMahon got.


350 posted on 09/15/2005 6:37:21 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!)
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To: One Proud Son

Joe Montana #1

No question


351 posted on 09/15/2005 6:38:41 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: One Proud Son
Earl Campbell is a great man, but then again, YOU haven't met him.

There are a lot of great men that don't get that sort of recognition for being great men.

But feel free to explain how being good at football ranks even close to the sacrifice Davy Crockett made at the Alamo.

Unless Campbell did something similar that I'm not aware of, it is an insult to the word "hero"

352 posted on 09/15/2005 6:44:32 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I think their basic point was that Campbell wasn't just a great athlete -- he was a great man on and off the field who happened to dominate his sport at different levels, all while playing in the state of Texas.

I don't mean to take anything from Campbell's accomplishments. I'm sure he's a person worth emulating. However, being good at a sport and being a swell guy does not, IMO, put one in the same category as Davy Crockett, Sam Houston, et al.

353 posted on 09/15/2005 6:45:51 AM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Too bad. Other than Dick Butkus, he was the toughest SOB ever to play on a football field.

I've met Jerry Kramer a couple of times in Green Bay when I've traveled up for games. Great guy, always friendly. Took photos with us and signed my original copy of "Instant Replay".

354 posted on 09/15/2005 6:49:03 AM PDT by DonnDe
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To: Alberta's Child
If you look at all the other defensive players on the Giants in the late 1970s and early 1980s, you won't find very many of them who got noticeably better after LT showed up in 1981.

That's your subjective opinion. The point is that the Giants' defense got noticeably better with the arrival of LT. Let's look at the record: Taylor was named first-team All-Pro in each of his first nine seasons. He was selected to play in 10 Pro Bowls and in 1994 was named to the NFL’s 75th Anniversary All-Time Team.

Starting in Taylor’s first season, the Giants began a 10-season streak in which they made the playoffs six times and won two Super Bowls. This was quite an improvment over the previous ten years during the 1970s. LT was the difference maker in a team sport. Carson and Van Pelt became more productive because LT was attracting double and triple teams.

355 posted on 09/15/2005 6:50:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: outlawcam

Point well taken.


356 posted on 09/15/2005 6:51:34 AM PDT by One Proud Son
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

He's better.

Not more talented...just better.


Please display his stats. and compare them to Marino's!??!


357 posted on 09/15/2005 6:56:10 AM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco

Sorry...stats don't capture everything my friend.

If you believe Marino is better...so be it.

As far as I'm concerned...it's not even a contest.


358 posted on 09/15/2005 7:00:51 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: DonnDe
I guess that's why he still impresses me after all these years. He embodied what my old man always taught me...when you're on the field, you give it all and you leave it all on the field...no matter what field that may be.

I've heard many stories from people who've met Jerry Kramer and not one of them was what I would call a Keyshawn/Randy Moss/Ray Lewis moment.

359 posted on 09/15/2005 7:10:23 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!")
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To: outlawcam
However, being good at a sport and being a swell guy does not, IMO, put one in the same category as Davy Crockett, Sam Houston, et al.

OK, so he didn't die at the Alamo, didn't lead a military campaign against Santa Anna, and he wasn't considered the Founding Father of Texas. But a Earl Campbell's life story is quite remarkable and highlights so many of the great things about what it means to be an American. He was one of eleven kids whose parents raised their children to appreciate the values of faith, honesty, integrity, and hard work. His father worked on a rose farm by day and at a nearby K-Mart store by night.

Earl's father died suddenly at a young age, and the family endured quite a lot of hardship as they struggled to make ends meet. All eleven kids matured at a young age, and they all pitched in to help the family survive. Many of them worked in a flower shop that his mother opened after her husband died (the origin of Earl's nickname "The Tyler Rose"). Earl attended segregated schools as a kid and became a great high school athlete despite the difficulties and outright animosity he faced at the time ths school was being desegregated.

In later years you'd never hear him complain about growing up in that environment, though.

After his retirement from football, Campbell started a business selling his trademark sausages, ribs, and barbecue sauce. He's also served as an "ambassador" of sorts for his alma mater, the University of Texas. A rags-to-riches story that exemplifies everything that is great about America.

Here's an interesting quote that I found from an interview a few years ago:

"It's sad that we can't let a team pray before a game as a unit or say a prayer before a basketball game. But we have to encourage our kids to be Christian people and to get up and go to church. I heard one guy who said his son couldn't kneel and say, "Thank you, Lord," after a touchdown because the referee would throw a penalty on him. There is something wrong in our legislature and government when we take prayer away from kids while we want them to know there is a Christ, the Devil and things you can't do. When we had prayer in the schools, we didn't have so much trouble with kids. I was thinking this morning as I was driving to work and telling God that I thanked him so much for my wife and my kids and for them being in choir rehearsal and prayer meeting, because that is where it all starts. Until our government gets prayer back in schools, I think we are going to lose our kids."

Is Earl Campbell a hero? You bet your @ss he is.

360 posted on 09/15/2005 7:50:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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