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The Hobbit Hole XXIV - Sand and Stone and Pool and Dell...
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Posted on 08/24/2005 9:50:25 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Sand and Stone and Pool and Dell...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: Ramius

Heh...we'd need a super-duper preview feature of some sort, in any case.

I know I sure wouldn't wanna actually post a lot of my thoughts...


8,121 posted on 10/12/2005 8:10:42 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: Corin Stormhands; SuziQ

gotta Piesporter ready tuh put intuh the secondary fermenter...


8,122 posted on 10/12/2005 8:11:11 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Sorta. :-)

But could you imagine setting up a BBS today, and actually teaching the whole company how to use it? Gads... what a nightmare.

Hell... even teaching people FTP nowadays is a nightmare.


8,123 posted on 10/12/2005 8:12:40 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 900 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius; RMDupree
RM: can't imagine what speeds will be achieved by the time I have grandchildren.

R: It'll be astounding. Stuff we can't even imagine yet. Twelve years ago most people hadn't even heard of the Internet.

heh... we'll still be on a 56k dial up...

8,124 posted on 10/12/2005 8:13:51 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

So...takes what, couple more weeks?

When should we all show up?


8,125 posted on 10/12/2005 8:14:02 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: g'nad

Heh...and so will Dad.

They're at least as far out of the way as you folks...can't get cable or DSL or anything like that there. I imagine there *might* be a satellite solution or something eventually. I dunno.


8,126 posted on 10/12/2005 8:15:55 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: RosieCotton

at least 3-5 more weeks till I bottle... then at least a month...

gotta batch of Old Scrote Bitter Ale ready to bottle... and fixin's fer another 5 gallons standing by...


8,127 posted on 10/12/2005 8:16:28 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: RosieCotton
yeah, we could go satellite... with a second mortgage... bastiges...
8,128 posted on 10/12/2005 8:17:26 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: Ramius
Eh, BBSs were simple compared to FTP. FTP has never progressed past the "created by and for geeks" stage.

Well, FR has p*ssed me off enough for the night. I'm going to bed.

8,129 posted on 10/12/2005 8:19:26 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: g'nad
Yah...that's one of many reasons Dad didn't wanna go that route. I think they don't like weather of any kind, either.

I've heard tell of them doing some sort of wireless towers in rural areas, but I don't know enough about it to know. I'm just a PC tech, not a network person.

And soon may not even be that anymore...*sigh*

Ramius might know...

8,130 posted on 10/12/2005 8:21:15 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: g'nad

I think whatever kinds Dad has *usually* made are quicker...'zat the difference between standard beer and ale? I've never understood the terminology...beer, ale, stout and such.


8,131 posted on 10/12/2005 8:22:32 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: RosieCotton

I like to cask age my beer... just me... I could go from boil to drinking in about 10 days (and I have in the past), but you get a much better product when you age it...

you can make cheap Rose very quickly and easily... 9 2-litre bottles of white concord grape juice, one of regular concord, 6 cups of sugar, vintner's yeast, a sterile six gallon bucket with an air lock, two weeks to bottle... (put it right back into the bottles the juice came in), let it set about a week more... surprisingly good, and easy Rose...


8,132 posted on 10/12/2005 8:28:57 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

Heh... I'm not even any good as an ubergeek anymore. Whenever I say sumpthin' it turns out I'm wrong. My teeth must be recedin'. I may have to turn in my pocket protector if this trend continues. :-)

But by way of edumacatin': BBS stands for "bulletin board system". It's what forums like FR did in the days before the web. Each user had to dial in on a modem directly to the BBS server machine. BBS servers could handle maybe 2 to 8 to 24 to 48 or whatever simultaneous connections, depending on how much they wanted to spend. People could post messages and others would reply... and so on and so on...

It was great fun, but it was mostly regional, since people didn't want to make long distance calls. Usenet came along and let local people share posts across distances and lots of other BBS's joined the Usenet newsgroup system.

But usenet newsgroups was like drinkin' from a firehose.


8,133 posted on 10/12/2005 8:29:49 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 900 knives and counting!)
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To: g'nad
heh... we'll still be on a 56k dial up...

You got cellular service at your house?

8,134 posted on 10/12/2005 8:34:10 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 900 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius

spotty...


8,135 posted on 10/12/2005 8:34:46 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: Ramius

I couldn't get a consistant signal while I was there...and most places were completely dead.

Maybe new towers will be installed over the next decade or so, though...or the technology will improve.


8,136 posted on 10/12/2005 8:37:36 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: g'nad
you can make cheap Rose very quickly and easily... 9 2-litre bottles of white concord grape juice, one of regular concord, 6 cups of sugar, vintner's yeast, a sterile six gallon bucket with an air lock, two weeks to bottle... (put it right back into the bottles the juice came in), let it set about a week more... surprisingly good, and easy Rose...

Ya know, this just might be worth a shot one of these days.

8,137 posted on 10/12/2005 8:38:33 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Pray, hope, and don't worry. - St. Pio)
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To: RosieCotton

it's falling down easy... the kits are more werk, but mrsnad wanted to try a Piesporter...

you can sterilize with 5% bleach, you can buy a plastic fermenting bucket for 8$, plastic hose for siphoning for pennies, and vintner's yeast at any homebrew shop fer about a buck...


8,138 posted on 10/12/2005 8:43:46 PM PDT by g'nad
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gotta get out in the Training Areas... duty calls...


8,139 posted on 10/12/2005 8:44:33 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

The new Verizon wireless internet service gives about 80Kbps to 120Kbps (roughly double what a modem can do) pretty much anywhere a cell phone can find a connection. Charge is only barely not obscene, but it might be spendy, in the $60-80 per month range.

In metro areas, they claim multiple megabits of connection speed. But they charge out the wazzoo for that.

Another option, that I did for a few years before DSL was available in my neighborhood... was to set up with my ISP for a multi-connection account. Most ISP's can do this. Basically it means that you can hook two or more modems to your computer... and dial all of them in to the same number, and they're all bound together by the ISP into one logical connection.

I had two phone lines, so I'd dial out on both of them, bind them into one logical connection, and instead of one 56K modem I had a workable 96K connection, more or less (some bandwidth is lost in overhead). It worked pretty well for high-bandwidth apps like the online game-playing in Unreal Tournament.


8,140 posted on 10/12/2005 9:01:17 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 900 knives and counting!)
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