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Posted on 08/08/2005 10:42:02 PM PDT by Mo1



TOPICS: Dimensional Doorway; Freeoples
KEYWORDS: cbdrools; dorsalfin; namelessonesrule; snakeandnicsarebad
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To: Lakeshark; sweetliberty

green thingies and blue thingies....I see. : )

Looks like it's gettin' kinda wild in DD....who started this, anyways??? : )


1,141 posted on 08/14/2005 4:24:38 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Lakeshark; sweetliberty; ValerieUSA

I wonder how many 85 pounds he contains! LOL Between drinks, smokes, and transfats mayor Bloomberg would make this being Persona Non Gradus

1,142 posted on 08/14/2005 4:25:34 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: Borax Queen
I love that site. My personal alter-ego:

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Big Cat would rather not fight...he enjoys peacefully observing forum conversations and laconically participates when the moods strikes. He playfully chases interesting threads, and from time to time uses a Newbie or Propellerhead as a convenient scratching post. He enjoys being stroked or petted, and tends to purr loudly. CAUTION: Don't be fooled by his fuzzy, playful exterior. When provoked, Big Cat reacts with lightning speed and almost always lands on his feet after an attack. Big Cat often indulges himself by toying with his victim before delivering his lethal blows.

1,143 posted on 08/14/2005 4:28:33 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: sweetliberty

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!


1,145 posted on 08/14/2005 4:42:40 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: twigleaf; Mo1; Borax Queen; nicmarlo; Darksheare; Lakeshark; Cardhu; grannie9; westmex; ...

This looks like a cartoon! LOL

Now too serious issues in NYC!

Bloomberg Fries

New York Sun Editorial
August 12, 2005

If your french fries start tasting soggy and the crust on the pie you love to eat at the diner starts taking on the consistency of glop - and if both start costing more, to boot - blame it on the latest stunt by Mother Bloomberg.

It turns out that the mayor has been using your tax money to launch a campaign to get restaurants to start using a kind of cooking oil that makes lower-quality fries and baked goods on the theory that it's healthier.

This was reported by our Jill Gardiner, who discovered that Mr. Bloomberg has been mailing out letters trying to convince local restaurants to use the inferior, but allegedly healthier and in any event more expensive, oil on a voluntary basis.

It seems that the unhydrogenated oil the mayor wants the restaurants to use is less likely to clog your arteries. It didn't take Ms. Gardiner long to find a deli cook who could see through all this, pointing out that people don't eat french fries for their health.


1,146 posted on 08/14/2005 4:48:01 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: Lakeshark; sweetliberty; ValerieUSA

Did your News Paper report this?


Atta Report Hints Solons May Have Acted Too Quickly

BY JOSH GERSTEIN - Staff Reporter of the Sun
August 12, 2005

WASHINGTON - The recent disclosure that a Pentagon unit experimenting with data-mining technologies apparently linked the ringleader of the September 11, 2001, attacks to a Brooklyn-based terror cell more than a year before the strikes is prompting new questions about whether the Pentagon and Congress acted too hastily when they publicly disavowed such database intensive research in 2003.

Leading the crusade for greater use of the data-mining technique, sometimes called pattern analysis or link analysis, is Rep. Curt Weldon, a Republican of Pennsylvania. "The capability of doing massive data mining using massive supercomputers like Crays is, in my opinion, the overriding tool in the war against terrorism," Mr. Weldon said in an interview with The New York Sun yesterday. "We don't have the capability. We need it."

Mr. Weldon, 58, has been preoccupied with the issue for years. In that time, his blunt and persistent approach has managed to irritate, if not anger, much of the intelligence establishment. Now, however, the 10-term congressman has stumbled onto what may be the most powerful piece of anecdotal evidence ever produced in favor of the technology, which involves using high-powered computers to sift through enormous quantities of data from a host of public and private sources.

The startling suggestion that a Defense Department unit was on the trail of Mohammed Atta and other terrorists more than a year before they struck was aired by Mr. Weldon for the first time on the House floor on June 27, 2005. The congressman delivered the so-called special order speech just before midnight, during a period reserved for lengthy remarks that are almost always ignored by the press.

"Mr. Speaker, for the first time I can tell our colleagues that one of our agencies not only identified the New York cell of Mohammed Atta and two of the terrorists, but actually made a recommendation to bring the FBI in to take out that cell," Mr. Weldon said in his remarks.

The unit that fingered Atta and connected him to a suspected Al Qaeda terror cell in Brooklyn was code-named, "Able Danger," according to the congressman and officials at the Pentagon. "Able Danger" involved staff from the Army's Information Dominance Center who operated under instruction from the Special Operations Command.

At some point in mid-2000, while the unit was running data-mining experiments, the computer produced Mohammed Atta's name along with a suggestion he was linked to other suspected Al Qaeda operatives. "Those connections led back to a Brooklyn cell, and that Brooklyn cell contained four of the terrorists," Mr. Weldon said yesterday.

While the "Able Danger" project was little discussed until recently, a broader Pentagon data-mining effort, known originally by the Orwellian name, "Total Information Awareness," was shuttered in 2003 after an outcry from privacy advocates. Some who were critics of that program say the recent developments suggest that the data-intensive technologies now deserve a second look.

"We did dismiss it too quickly," said Sonia Arrison, the director of technology studies at a San Francisco think tank, the Pacific Research Institute. "I was really against TIA when it first came out," she said.

Ms. Arrison said it makes little sense to demand that the government abandon a technology that is being used more and more widely by retailers and others in the private sector. She said the government should move forward with the program but eschew the secrecy that usually surrounds such efforts. "Let's embrace a TIA-type system, but let's have everyone understand how it works," the analyst said. "The technology is really just a tool. It can be used for good or evil. ... You can't put it back in the bottle."

Ms. Arrison said researchers at Pepperdine University are using the technology to seek patterns that could identify corrupt government officials.

Mr. Weldon said the Total Information Awareness program was hamstrung by several factors, including the association of its director, Admiral John Poindexter, with the Iran-Contra scandal. "We put the wrong person in and put the wrong spin on it," the congressman said. "Somehow, it became a massive, 'Big Brother' spying effort on the American people. That perception killed what was a necessary effort."

Efforts to reach Mr. Poindexter for this story were not successful.

While the Congress eliminated funding for the Total Information Awareness program in 2003, experts in the field assert that some data mining efforts have continued in classified programs that have no public budget.

According Mr. Weldon, the "Able Danger" team proposed providing the data on Atta to the FBI, but it was stopped by Defense Department lawyers who feared running afoul of guidelines and legal restrictions that govern intelligence agencies and the military.

The basis for the attorneys' decision, which Mr. Weldon said he heard about from one of the "Able Danger" officers, is not clear. In general, a 1981 executive order bars intelligence agencies from disseminating information about American citizens and legal permanent residents of this country. However, Atta and the other hijackers did not fit that definition and, in any event, exceptions to the order allow sharing of some terrorism-related information.

Mr. Weldon is currently engaged in a public tussle with the members and staff of the so-called September 11 Commission over why that body omitted all discussion of the "Able Danger" project from its report. Commission members initially said they were unaware of the claims that the project had fingered Atta. However, they have since conceded that members of the commission's staff were briefed on the claim in July 2004, just before the panel released its report.

A spokesman for the commission, Al Felzenberg, did not return calls yesterday seeking comment for this story, but according to news reports, the commission staffers disregarded the information about Atta because he arrived in America in June 2000 and could not have been in Brooklyn in 1999 or early 2000, as the military computer team suggested.

Mr. Weldon said yesterday that was a specious reason for failing to thoroughly explore the "Able Danger" data and not acting upon it. "It wasn't about timelines. It was about linkages," he said. "That's nothing but B.S. and nothing but spin. They're trying to spin their way out."

Most privacy advocates appear to be unmoved by the news that data mining could have helped the government find the September 11 hijackers in advance.

"It actually does not cause us to rethink this," a legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, Timothy Sparapani, said. "The American public's most sensitive personally identifiable information should not be subjected to this kind of experiment unless and until we have some kind of confidence that society is going to get some kind of tangible benefit out of it."

However, Mr. Sparapani said the failure to act on the information that was developed does merit investigation. "The problem is nobody conveyed it to anyone who could do anything about it. It says to me enormous structural divisions in the intelligence community need to be overcome," he said.

An attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Kurt Opsahl, said the government should not be allowed to collect personal data on Americans, even if it might prevent an act of terrorism. "It is essential that people be able to maintain their privacy and their day-to-day transactions are not placed under government scrutiny," he said.

Mr. Weldon said he favors safeguards that would prevent any surveillance system from generating data about American citizens. Over the administration's objections, the House passed legislation last month that would require an annual government-wide report on data-mining projects.


1,148 posted on 08/14/2005 5:04:59 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: twigleaf
"What the heck is up with those backassjackward flags that are on eveyone's right shoulder?"

Reflection of their brain activity?

1,149 posted on 08/14/2005 5:05:35 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: twigleaf

This is what I had to suffer with here after 911 some being who I am sure not stupid delibertly had hundreds of flags prints to hang on the buses windows they were all backward, it was very distrubing at the time to see that!

I am having trouble having a warm heart for Cindy, however if she is mentally distrubed being, it is crminal if they are using her if such a condition exist!

But ever time I hear her I speak she is far removed from what her son was about!


1,150 posted on 08/14/2005 5:16:29 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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FRIES WERE ALWAYS AT THERE BEST IN BEEF TALLOW!

YIPPY YIO...

But even if trans fat should go the way of bathtub hooch, Fun City denizens hungry for a gustatory thrill can still take heart: French fries, burgers and other goodies sizzled in butter, bacon fat or beef tallow will swim in saturated fat--and nutritionists agree that so-called "sat-fat" is better than the man-made trans fat.

Enjoy in moderation, of course.


1,151 posted on 08/14/2005 5:23:43 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: Borax Queen; twigleaf; Lakeshark

I took this photo on the night of 7/18/05 at Avra Valley, AZ. These storms ushered in the official beginning of the Arizona monsoon season, at the second-latest start date on record. The monsoon season is a period between July and September when thunderclouds form over the mountain ranges almost every afternoon. The rain is welcome, considering we've had over 110 wildfires in Arizona this year, caused by lightning and human carelessness. More Arizona monsoon information is available here. --Owen Kelly

1,153 posted on 08/14/2005 5:35:03 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: twigleaf

Why is the flag sometimes backwards on the side of airplanes, buses, and military uniforms?
The flag decals have the union (the blue area with the stars) on the side closer to the front of the plane. On the plane's left, the decal shows the flag with the union at the left, as usual. On the plane's right side, the union is on the right. This is done so that the flag looks as if it is blowing in the wind created by the forward movement of the ship or airplane. You can see this on cars and trucks as well. Click to see pictures of the flag decals on Air Force 1. There are two separate flag patches in the Army inventory: the normal U.S. flag replica that is worn on the left sleeve, and what is referred to as the "reversed field" flag patch, which is worn on the right sleeve.

http://www.techimo.com/forum/t31161.html



1,154 posted on 08/14/2005 5:38:45 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: Mo1

Evil, Mo, eeeeeeeeevil...


1,156 posted on 08/14/2005 5:48:51 PM PDT by null and void (Be vewwy vewwy qwiet, we're hunting wahabbits...)
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To: twigleaf

Who took it upon themselves to change our tradition this is what they will really do if they have more say with our judges!

I really am frustrated with Gen-Xers etc and others who do not know the histroy of their nation!

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html


1,157 posted on 08/14/2005 5:55:02 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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To: Conservababe

CB I located a diner in Missouri and got this to go hope this helps to fatten you up!:)

Cheers!


1,159 posted on 08/14/2005 6:10:11 PM PDT by restornu (To Me a Minority is One Who Is Not One Nation Under God & Denies the Golden Rule!)
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