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The Hobbit Hole XXII - ...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe
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Posted on 06/01/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: 2Jedismom

Eh - I'm just joshin' ya.

I just can't imagine ever running to town to get kafir. I don't even have a clue what it is.


5,741 posted on 06/29/2005 7:38:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
I mean, whatever you eat, you're gonna get 80 or 100 years

Yes, true. But longevity is no measure of health. How many of those years will be spent clinging to a pill bottle for your very life? "Life expectancy" is a misleading measure. Instead, it should be re-normed to the age of onset of degenerative disease - the age when you get handed a pill bottle. The result would be shocking. Age 40 perhaps? Maybe 35? Factoring in childhood diabetes and asthma - maybe age 12?

The folks in loin cloths have us beat - hands down.

5,742 posted on 06/29/2005 7:39:23 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
the age when you get handed a pill bottle.

Just don't go to the doctor. :)

5,743 posted on 06/29/2005 7:40:53 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: TalonDJ
Very few things are 'staples'. Patatos, Rice, Corn, Wheat, not much else.

Beef. Fish. Seafood. Fowl.

Potatos came from South America.

5,744 posted on 06/29/2005 7:44:07 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper

And the fact that many or most of their kids die as babies of children and other things like a cold or a cut (infection) or bad water are more likely to kill you than a car wreck. Or that you can just write off anyone with diabetes or many disabilities. All those are just minor details. Death by tiger at ager 17 is better than death in a bed surrounded by great grand kids at age 89 after you have been taking pills for a decade?


5,745 posted on 06/29/2005 7:44:30 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: HairOfTheDog
All this natural food stuff sounds like a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap ;~D

Careful or I shall whallop you with my Birkenstocks! Muahahaa.

5,746 posted on 06/29/2005 7:45:26 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper

Well soybeans count in some countries so tofu sorta counts.


5,747 posted on 06/29/2005 7:45:46 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: HairOfTheDog

It's fermented milk. If you like yogurt, you'd like this...it's a drinkable yogurt-type beverage that is effervescent (you burp when you drink it) and tart. It's slightly alcoholic (gasp!), not much, just .3%.

It's like sour dough starter...you just keep making it from starter culture called "grains".


5,748 posted on 06/29/2005 7:46:06 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: Lil'freeper

~ducking~


5,749 posted on 06/29/2005 7:47:34 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; 2Jedismom; Overtaxed; Lil'freeper; JenB
All this natural food stuff sounds like a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap ;~D

You can't fool us. You're just in it for the "herbs."

5,750 posted on 06/29/2005 7:48:07 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (www.kaineisnotable.com)
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To: 2Jedismom

I've never eaten yogurt. Didn't like the sound of it.

So... I don't like the sound of kafir either ;~D


5,751 posted on 06/29/2005 7:48:36 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Lil'freeper

Chocolate. :)


5,752 posted on 06/29/2005 7:49:11 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands

I can't argue against herbs ;~D


5,753 posted on 06/29/2005 7:49:20 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TalonDJ
Death by tiger at ager 17 is better than death in a bed surrounded by great grand kids at age 89 after you have been taking pills for a decade?

I'm talking about nutrition and disease. I'm not passing judgement on what is better for other people - just pointing out common misperceptions. The big one, that we're so much *healthier* here in the western world, smacks of social darwinism and is demonstrably false.

5,754 posted on 06/29/2005 7:49:23 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: HairOfTheDog

Open up man. It's me Dave, I've got the herbs...


5,755 posted on 06/29/2005 7:50:13 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (www.kaineisnotable.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Dave's not here.


5,756 posted on 06/29/2005 7:50:45 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TalonDJ
Soybeans were used extensively in crop rotation schemes. They were not a staple legume. They were eaten in times of famine.

Soy is 'processed' through various fermentation techniques into foods that are more digestable. Things like soy sauce, and tempeh are more common in historical foodways than tofu. Even in modern times, soy remains a condiment. Like mustard in our western diets.

5,757 posted on 06/29/2005 7:52:24 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
I have never heard that we were healthier although I am sure some people think that. Our veggies has less vitamin content than the same ones grown by hand in third world countries. Plus we spend far to much time on our butts to be really healthy. Now the 'quality of life' difference I will argue. I don't believe a lick of social Darwin c@rp. I to believe in technological development (for better or worse).
5,758 posted on 06/29/2005 7:52:32 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Lil'freeper
These days soy beans are an ingredient in a lot of things. Probably not enough to be a 'staple' but they are up there. Mainly as a side effect of finding a used for the rotated crop but they do have a lot of uses.
5,759 posted on 06/29/2005 7:54:20 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Lil'freeper
These days soy beans are an ingredient in a lot of things. Probably not enough to be a 'staple' but they are up there. Mainly as a side effect of finding a used for the rotated crop but they do have a lot of uses.
5,760 posted on 06/29/2005 7:54:27 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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