[Lil'freeper]

Death by tiger at ager 17 is better than death in a bed surrounded by great grand kids at age 89 after you have been taking pills for a decade?

I'm talking about nutrition and disease. I'm not passing judgement on what is better for other people - just pointing out common misperceptions. The big one, that we're so much *healthier* here in the western world, smacks of social darwinism and is demonstrably false.

[TalonDJ]

I have never heard that we were healthier although I am sure some people think that. Our veggies has less vitamin content than the same ones grown by hand in third world countries. Plus we spend far to much time on our butts to be really healthy. Now the 'quality of life' difference I will argue. I don't believe a lick of social Darwin c@rp. I to believe in technological development (for better or worse).

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Some bad news for you.