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It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)
Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin

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To: All

I want to know what the medical term is for someone who is TERMINAL because they are refused hydration and nutrition...

What exactly is that "DISEASE"????


1,261 posted on 04/08/2005 7:30:02 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: djreece; ExPatInFrance; eeevil conservative; nicmarlo; maine-iac7; schmelvin; Netizen; Sun; ...

Another Mae Information Ping everyone:

From Tricky_k_1972 at post 1155, Here is a link to Free Audio: Glenn Beck interview with Kenneth Mullinax


http://www.glennbeck.com/audio/free-audio.shtml


1,262 posted on 04/08/2005 7:37:10 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: eeevil conservative

Thank you for the reply, but I'm still not cewrtain as to the timeline: was a feeding/hydration tube inserted before being admitted to the Hospice, then removed, then re-inserted, then removed again under orders of the newly appointed guardian, the granddaughter? I need to have correct information as to when the tube was first inserted, when it was removed and under whose orders, then how long has MAe been without hdyration and nutrition presently, if she is now without any.


1,263 posted on 04/08/2005 7:38:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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The calls & emails to Joel Martin paid off yesterday!

LaGrange Daily News

Woman, 81, at center of feeding tube feud Kenneth Mullinax, the patient’s nephew in Birmingham, Ala., said a hospice nurse told him that Magouirk had not received substantial nourishment since March 28. He wants a temporary feeding tube inserted until she can be evaluated for treatment at the University of Alabama Medical Center. A living will states that nourishment should be withheld only if she were in a coma or vegetative state with no hope of recovery.

Mullinax and the patient’s brother and sister – Lonnie Ruth Mullinax of Birmingham and A.B. McLeod of Anniston, Ala. – came here last Friday to arrange for a feeding tube and take her to the Birmingham hospital. That same day Gaddy received emergency guardianship in Troup County Probate Court.

At a follow-up hearing Monday, the parties reached a settlement that awarded guardianship to Gaddy provided three cardiologists – James Brennan and Thomas Gore, both of LaGrange, and Raed Aquel of Birmingham – evaluate the patient, who would receive whatever treatment two of the three recommended. A final decision had not yet been reached.

“They were all hugging necks when they left court,” said Probate Judge Donald Boyd. “I don’t know what happened.” Boyd said Gaddy testified at the hearing that she feeds her grandmother Jello, chips of ice and “anything else she’d be willing to eat.”

“I think all of Mrs. Magouirk’s family has her genuine best interests at heart, but unfortunately they disagree on what they believe would be best for her,” said Jack Kirby of LaGrange, attorney for the patient’s brother and sister.

“She (Gaddy) said, ‘I think it’s time she (her grandmother) goes home to Jesus, that’s she’s too sick and would not have a good quality of life,” Kenneth Mullinax said. His complaints have been posted on Internet Web logs that have been in overdrive since the Terri Schiavo case.

“All of the Terri Schiavo people have come to our rescue,” Mullinax said. “This thing’s going national.”

On Thursday, the Probate Office, West Georgia Health System and attorneys in the case were inundated with phone calls and e-mails.

“We need people surrounding that place (hospice), we need some activity,” one caller from Oregon told the Daily News, adding that she had called the governor’s office and attorneys in the case.

The probate office got an estimated 50 calls from people saying things like, “I understand y’all are murdering people in Troup County” and “You’re euthanizing people.” “We’re taking the posture of refusing to deal with those people because they’re not representing the responsible parties,” said West Georgia Health System President Jerry Fulks. “We’re focusing on taking care of the patient and her family.”

Fulks said he could not comment on an individual patient, but the health system’s policy calls for nourishment and hydration for hospice patients, sometimes through a feeding tube because of throat cancer or some other condition that prevents the patient from swallowing.

He said there is a “reverence for life that our staff and our physicians and our volunteers all adhere to in doing the jobs they do.”

Mullinax said his aunt does not have a terminal condition, which is a requirement for admission to hospice. Danny Daniel of LaGrange, the attorney for Gaddy and another grandchild, said doctors made the decision to admit Magourik into hospice.

Gaddy has been taking care of her grandmother for 10 years, he said.

“They’re following the doctors’ recommendations and they want to do what’s in the best interests of their grandmother,” Daniel said, adding that hospice is providing “excellent care” for Magourik, a widow with no children.

Gaddy could not be reached for comment.

“The doctors can make her very comfortable again and give her a normal life,” Mullinax said. “That’s all we want for Aunt Mae ... My aunt can’t live much longer without substantial fluids or nourishment.

“I want the world to know that at Hospice LaGrange you have people who are not terminal being denied nourishment as a matter of course. This national debate has reared its head in Troup County, Georgia. It’s the damndest thing I’ve ever seen.”

He said he will “pursue every available avenue” to get treatment for his aunt.

Joel Martin can be reached at jmartin@lagrangenews. com or (706) 884-7311 ext. 235.

http://www.lagrangenews.com/new.php?StoryType=full

1,264 posted on 04/08/2005 7:42:49 PM PDT by lil'bit
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WHERE IS THE LINK TO THE STORY IN THE LAGRANGE PAPER??

ANYONE HAVE IT HANDY??


1,265 posted on 04/08/2005 7:44:30 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: Sun
Slight edits for claification:
When Marge fell ill the nursing home followed the order written on the document and denied her food and water for two weeks. But then something unexpected happened: Marge asked to be fed. A court battle ensued. The court gave permit to the nursing home to slaughter Marge by starvation and dehydration. The judge said that Marge was no longer legally competent to ask for food. The slaughter was permitted: the judge ruled that giving Marge the food she asked for would constitute "extraordinary means" of keeping her alive, and this would violate the contract Marge, herself, had written up prior.

And, that prior assent to the contract -- the durable power of attorney -- was made when she was fully comptent the court ruled .

On what basis did the court consider her competent earlier and not later? Because earlier she had agreed to die, and later she decided to live.

In modern case law today, competency is presumptive for a death-wish and incompetency is presumptive against any expression claiming to desire life.

The law is the law. We must honor judges and the law.


1,266 posted on 04/08/2005 7:45:22 PM PDT by bvw
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Brian Sussman on KSFO (San Francisco) did a really good job covering Mae's plight and is going to put contact info on the website (I'm not sure whether that will be www.ksfo.com or www.briansussman.com) for listeners to help the family.


1,267 posted on 04/08/2005 7:46:46 PM PDT by djreece (May God grant us wisdom.)
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Save Mae Magouirk from Forced Euthanasia Ping!!!

If you’d like to be added or deleted from this Ping List please freepmail me.

Another lady is being dehydrated and starved to death – AGAINST HER WRITTEN WISHES AND THOSE OF HER SISTER IN INTENSIVE CARE AS WE WORK!

eeevil conservative posted another message from Mae's nephew Kenneth at post 1206.

I am also copying her text here:

No matter what any of you may think about if Mae should die this way--

I just thought you all would like to know that Mae's sister is in ICU--

Kenneth has had a HARD DAY!

His mother told him- Don't worry about me today- go save my sister Mae.

He has done over 20 radio shows today.

If nothing else--

PLEASE PRAY FOR HIM!

THIS IS SO MUCH TO TAKE ON!

1,268 posted on 04/08/2005 7:49:04 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: eeevil conservative
Lagrange Paper http://www.lagrangenews.com/new.php?StoryType=full

It's in the post above yours

1,269 posted on 04/08/2005 7:56:14 PM PDT by lil'bit
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To: eeevil conservative

That's what we need! Thanks!


1,270 posted on 04/08/2005 7:59:07 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: vaudine; Netizen
This granddaughter has financial poweer of atty.--could this have swayed her toward throwing grandma off the train?

If she had financial power of attorney, why would she need to do that?

I think the woman said it was prayer that led her to it. I suppose we could also be suspicious of prayer now.

I'm not saying she's honest and isn't lying...I'm just commenting that there's a lot of things we can't assume here.

1,271 posted on 04/08/2005 7:59:29 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: vaudine; Netizen

You guys have much more patience that I. God Bless You both.

:)


1,272 posted on 04/08/2005 8:01:33 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

than I


1,273 posted on 04/08/2005 8:02:57 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: eeevil conservative
I don't think I can take losing another life..

This would be a tragedy, I agree.

To me, though, it's less losing another life than losing a person.

1,274 posted on 04/08/2005 8:03:18 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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Pinging for Mae again:

Folks, this time I'm pinging to Post 1234 so that you can see a work pulled together by schmelvin. This contains a list of links to articles about Mae. It proves that people ARE being informed about Mae's horror.

1,275 posted on 04/08/2005 8:04:40 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: eeevil conservative

That whole family is in my prayers, but I'll throw in some extra for Kenneth. He's working very hard.


1,276 posted on 04/08/2005 8:05:17 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: eeevil conservative

Please know that the majority of FR supports you and your efforts. Fr is pro-life and for that we can be thankful.


1,277 posted on 04/08/2005 8:05:26 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: Wneighbor; djreece; ExPatInFrance; eeevil conservative; maine-iac7; schmelvin; Netizen; Sun
FYI:

Georgia Case Mirrors Schiavo Battle

WXIA-TV, GA - 16 minutes ago

Unlike Terri Schiavo, this patient had a living will, but her case is still tangled. Ken Mullinax's aunt, Mae Magouirk, suffered aorta damage in late March...

1,278 posted on 04/08/2005 8:05:44 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: schmelvin

You've been busy!


1,279 posted on 04/08/2005 8:06:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sageb1
... I wanted him as lucid as possible until he died. But, hey, maybe that was selfish of me - I loved the guy.

I admire you a great deal for that admission. Many people would not have recognized that possibility. You respected him, as well as loved him, and it shows. My condolences.

1,280 posted on 04/08/2005 8:06:52 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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