Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin
I want to know what the medical term is for someone who is TERMINAL because they are refused hydration and nutrition...
What exactly is that "DISEASE"????
Another Mae Information Ping everyone:
From Tricky_k_1972 at post 1155, Here is a link to Free Audio: Glenn Beck interview with Kenneth Mullinax
http://www.glennbeck.com/audio/free-audio.shtml
Thank you for the reply, but I'm still not cewrtain as to the timeline: was a feeding/hydration tube inserted before being admitted to the Hospice, then removed, then re-inserted, then removed again under orders of the newly appointed guardian, the granddaughter? I need to have correct information as to when the tube was first inserted, when it was removed and under whose orders, then how long has MAe been without hdyration and nutrition presently, if she is now without any.
LaGrange Daily News
Woman, 81, at center of feeding tube feud Kenneth Mullinax, the patients nephew in Birmingham, Ala., said a hospice nurse told him that Magouirk had not received substantial nourishment since March 28. He wants a temporary feeding tube inserted until she can be evaluated for treatment at the University of Alabama Medical Center. A living will states that nourishment should be withheld only if she were in a coma or vegetative state with no hope of recovery.
Mullinax and the patients brother and sister Lonnie Ruth Mullinax of Birmingham and A.B. McLeod of Anniston, Ala. came here last Friday to arrange for a feeding tube and take her to the Birmingham hospital. That same day Gaddy received emergency guardianship in Troup County Probate Court.
At a follow-up hearing Monday, the parties reached a settlement that awarded guardianship to Gaddy provided three cardiologists James Brennan and Thomas Gore, both of LaGrange, and Raed Aquel of Birmingham evaluate the patient, who would receive whatever treatment two of the three recommended. A final decision had not yet been reached.
They were all hugging necks when they left court, said Probate Judge Donald Boyd. I dont know what happened. Boyd said Gaddy testified at the hearing that she feeds her grandmother Jello, chips of ice and anything else shed be willing to eat.
I think all of Mrs. Magouirks family has her genuine best interests at heart, but unfortunately they disagree on what they believe would be best for her, said Jack Kirby of LaGrange, attorney for the patients brother and sister.
She (Gaddy) said, I think its time she (her grandmother) goes home to Jesus, thats shes too sick and would not have a good quality of life, Kenneth Mullinax said. His complaints have been posted on Internet Web logs that have been in overdrive since the Terri Schiavo case.
All of the Terri Schiavo people have come to our rescue, Mullinax said. This things going national.
On Thursday, the Probate Office, West Georgia Health System and attorneys in the case were inundated with phone calls and e-mails.
We need people surrounding that place (hospice), we need some activity, one caller from Oregon told the Daily News, adding that she had called the governors office and attorneys in the case.
The probate office got an estimated 50 calls from people saying things like, I understand yall are murdering people in Troup County and Youre euthanizing people. Were taking the posture of refusing to deal with those people because theyre not representing the responsible parties, said West Georgia Health System President Jerry Fulks. Were focusing on taking care of the patient and her family.
Fulks said he could not comment on an individual patient, but the health systems policy calls for nourishment and hydration for hospice patients, sometimes through a feeding tube because of throat cancer or some other condition that prevents the patient from swallowing.
He said there is a reverence for life that our staff and our physicians and our volunteers all adhere to in doing the jobs they do.
Mullinax said his aunt does not have a terminal condition, which is a requirement for admission to hospice. Danny Daniel of LaGrange, the attorney for Gaddy and another grandchild, said doctors made the decision to admit Magourik into hospice.
Gaddy has been taking care of her grandmother for 10 years, he said.
Theyre following the doctors recommendations and they want to do whats in the best interests of their grandmother, Daniel said, adding that hospice is providing excellent care for Magourik, a widow with no children.
Gaddy could not be reached for comment.
The doctors can make her very comfortable again and give her a normal life, Mullinax said. Thats all we want for Aunt Mae ... My aunt cant live much longer without substantial fluids or nourishment.
I want the world to know that at Hospice LaGrange you have people who are not terminal being denied nourishment as a matter of course. This national debate has reared its head in Troup County, Georgia. Its the damndest thing Ive ever seen.
He said he will pursue every available avenue to get treatment for his aunt.
Joel Martin can be reached at jmartin@lagrangenews. com or (706) 884-7311 ext. 235.
http://www.lagrangenews.com/new.php?StoryType=full
WHERE IS THE LINK TO THE STORY IN THE LAGRANGE PAPER??
ANYONE HAVE IT HANDY??
When Marge fell ill the nursing home followed the order written on the document and denied her food and water for two weeks. But then something unexpected happened: Marge asked to be fed. A court battle ensued. The court gave permit to the nursing home to slaughter Marge by starvation and dehydration. The judge said that Marge was no longer legally competent to ask for food. The slaughter was permitted: the judge ruled that giving Marge the food she asked for would constitute "extraordinary means" of keeping her alive, and this would violate the contract Marge, herself, had written up prior.And, that prior assent to the contract -- the durable power of attorney -- was made when she was fully comptent the court ruled .
On what basis did the court consider her competent earlier and not later? Because earlier she had agreed to die, and later she decided to live.
In modern case law today, competency is presumptive for a death-wish and incompetency is presumptive against any expression claiming to desire life.
The law is the law. We must honor judges and the law.
Brian Sussman on KSFO (San Francisco) did a really good job covering Mae's plight and is going to put contact info on the website (I'm not sure whether that will be www.ksfo.com or www.briansussman.com) for listeners to help the family.
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Another lady is being dehydrated and starved to death AGAINST HER WRITTEN WISHES AND THOSE OF HER SISTER IN INTENSIVE CARE AS WE WORK!
eeevil conservative posted another message from Mae's nephew Kenneth at post 1206.
I am also copying her text here:
No matter what any of you may think about if Mae should die this way--
I just thought you all would like to know that Mae's sister is in ICU--
Kenneth has had a HARD DAY!
His mother told him- Don't worry about me today- go save my sister Mae.
He has done over 20 radio shows today.
If nothing else--
PLEASE PRAY FOR HIM!
THIS IS SO MUCH TO TAKE ON!
It's in the post above yours
That's what we need! Thanks!
If she had financial power of attorney, why would she need to do that?
I think the woman said it was prayer that led her to it. I suppose we could also be suspicious of prayer now.
I'm not saying she's honest and isn't lying...I'm just commenting that there's a lot of things we can't assume here.
You guys have much more patience that I. God Bless You both.
:)
than I
This would be a tragedy, I agree.
To me, though, it's less losing another life than losing a person.
Folks, this time I'm pinging to Post 1234 so that you can see a work pulled together by schmelvin. This contains a list of links to articles about Mae. It proves that people ARE being informed about Mae's horror.
That whole family is in my prayers, but I'll throw in some extra for Kenneth. He's working very hard.
Please know that the majority of FR supports you and your efforts. Fr is pro-life and for that we can be thankful.
Georgia Case Mirrors Schiavo Battle
WXIA-TV, GA - 16 minutes ago
Unlike Terri Schiavo, this patient had a living will, but her case is still tangled. Ken Mullinax's aunt, Mae Magouirk, suffered aorta damage in late March...
You've been busy!
I admire you a great deal for that admission. Many people would not have recognized that possibility. You respected him, as well as loved him, and it shows. My condolences.
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