[Rembrandt_fan]

To state that only your 'petition to the Throne of Glory' has weight with the Lord is the height of hubris. Further, you find that those who might disagree with your views are 'the unsaved and carnal Christians'. How convenient. Such a stance allows you to dismiss any counter-argument out of hand since, as you know, anyone who differs with you is automatically one of the wretched damned.

I detest it when someone couches sloppy thinking in smug, high-sounding prose complete with vaguely inappropriate Scriptural references. Can't defend your position in a logically reasoned debate? No problem. Invoke a suitable-sounding Biblical verse and move on.

[Washington_minuteman]

I didn't say that only "my" petetion was of any value. If you read that into my remarks, you did it because you wanted to do so.

As to my dismissal of the counter-arguments, address them from the spiritual frame of reference, not a carnal, worldly frame, and you won't have to feel "dismissed", because that is my frame of reference.

The Scripture I cited is not inappropriate. It applies to every aspect of the Christian's life, as does the following reference:

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Heb. 4:14)

You want a worldly, carnal "logically reasoned debate". There are many of those here that you may participate in. From me, however, all you'll get is the Light of God's Word shining into every dark place, exposing every secret intent.

What is happening in Florida is warfare in the spiritual plane, and only spiritual weapons have any positive effect.

I am sorry you cannot see it.