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Why Judicial Appointments Do NOT Matter (Schiavo)
2005-03-26 | UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Posted on 03/26/2005 11:56:14 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

One more reason in a long history that judicial appointments will not solve the problem of leftist judges and judicial tyranny was seen on Mar. 23, 2005, in the request for emergency rehearing of the 11th Circuit en banc of the case of Schiavo v. Schiavo when George W. Bush recess appointment William H. Pryor, Jr., voted AGAINST rehearing. Rather than joining in the cogent and spirited dissent of Judge Tjoflat or associating himself with the dissent of Judge Wilson (a Clinton appointee) in the original three-judge panel, he voted with the majority in the 10-2 denial of rehearing. Judge Pryor did so without any comment to give any insight into his reasoning for doing so. But it is sure to win a brownie point or two from some Democrats who had blocked his regular appointment to the court with a threatened fillibuster - not. It is interesting to note that although the denial of rehearing was 10-2, Republican appointees actually hold a 7-5 majority on the 11th Circuit. But six Republicans voted with four Democrats to starve an innocent woman to death on the say-so of her estranged husband rather than finding one of several legal avenues placed in evidence and the law to reach a more humane and just result.

The history of Republican appointees to the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) is likewise checkered. While Nixon appointee William Rehnquist has been a stalwart conservative for 33 years, another Nixon appointee, Harry Blackmun wrote the infamous Roe v. Wade abortion opinion for the majority. And Blackmun, along with fellow Nixon and Ford appointees Louis Powell and John Paul Stevens cemented an activist leftist court through the 1970s and 1980s. Appointees by Republicans, thought conservative, as often as not become part of the activist-leftist problem upon receiving their lifetime appointments.

While Nixon and Ford had to contend with a strongly Democrat Senate to get their appointments confirmed, Reagan enjoyed for a time a Republican Senate. Although Reagan was both a social and fiscal (in theory) conservative, his appointments to SCOTUS were one conservative, Scalia, and two increasingly liberal swing votes, O'Connor and Kennedy. George H.W. Bush achieved a similar split with conservative Thomas, who squeaked in by a narrow confirmation margin in the days before filibustering of appellate judges, and liberal David Souter. It is interesting to note that the last Democrat "mistake" to SCOTUS was the Kennedy appointment of conservative Byron White in 1962.

It is hardly going to make a positive difference in the courts for conservatives when leftist presidents and Democrat Senators apply a nearly foolproof litmus test while Republican presidents tend to appoint "qualified" judges, half from each side. The math over the last 28 years of four Republican presidential terms and three Democrat, with a nearly even divide in the Senate over that time, is for 70% leftist appointees. At that rate, if there were nothing but Republican presidents for the next 40 years, the courts would be no better than evenly divided.

The solution to the problem of runaway activist leftist courts is for Republican executives to assert their independence from judicial fiat. (You could argue that Democrat presidents could do the same, except they don't need to. - They already have the courts for the forseeable future.) Federalist #78 explains that judges are "dependent" on executives to carry out their decisions. In 1832 in the case of Worcester v. Georgia recognizing the independence of the Cherokee Nation from the laws of Georgia, Andrew Jackson disregarded the Supreme Court with the famous remark "Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it." leading a few year later to the removal of the Cherokee altogether. Even in the case of Marbury v. Madison, Chief Justice Marshall explicitly recognized that he could not order President Jefferson to deliver certain commissions without being ignored due to separation of powers and thus invalidated the law requiring the delivery of those commissions instead.

What happened since those early days to separation of powers? We became accustomed to the routine condition that the executive should normally support the judiciary. Even when activist judges handed down abominable decisions such as Dred Scot in 1857, which forced slavery on the whole country, the executives after the the passing of the Founding Fathers enforced them. Of course, the President at the time of Dred Scot was a pro-slavery northern Democrat, James Buchanan, who was not going to nullify Dred Scot anyway.

The only serious way to turn back judicial activism is through the executive nullification of the most odious of judicial rulings, such as starving an innocent woman to death on dubious evidence and calling it a Constitutional Right. Judge Pryor, when he comes up for confirmation to a permanent post on the court, needs to do some serious dancing around the issue of why he did not at least make a public showing to help the dying Terri Schiavo and should quite probably be denied the support of conservatives previously so eager to see him confirmed. And conservatives need to consider ways besides judicial appointments, or the forlorn hope for impeachments in a Congress too narrowly divided and partisan to sustain them, to reign in the tyranny of our current Judicial Oligopoly.


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To: ClintonBeGone

You are missing the point, we are getting more liberal judges and by BOTH parties. The point is the solution has to come for some other direction than the nomination process. Both the Congress and the President has the power to reign in the Courts if they want. The GOP has control of both which is why so many people are getting mad at the GOP. We know if this case is lost the problem gets much worse much faster and all the tears over giving the power to the DNC will be an exercise in self-indulgence.


61 posted on 03/26/2005 2:20:32 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: ClintonBeGone

I am with you! Obviously some of these people didn't bother to read any pleadings by the Schindler lawyers. I sat stunned as I read them last night. No wonder the Federal Courts didn't approve anything.

Also cannot believe how much this has been litigated.


62 posted on 03/26/2005 2:23:09 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: PhiKapMom

"Also cannot believe how much this has been litigated."

PhiKapMom, what part of "De Novo" do you not understand?


63 posted on 03/26/2005 2:25:26 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Kennedy and Souter were substitute appointees who were nominated only after the original choices of Reagan and Bush were defeated in the Senate, lest anyone forget. Remember Bork and Ginsberg?


64 posted on 03/26/2005 2:28:35 PM PST by EDINVA (i)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Schiavo v. Schiavo
It's Schindler v Schiavo. He's not suing himself.


The case is THERESA MARIE SCHINDLER SCHIAVO, incapacitated ex rel, Robert Schindler and Mary Schindler, her parents and next friends, versus MICHAEL SCHIAVO, as guardian of the person of Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo, incapacitated, JUDGE GEORGE W. GREER, THE HOSPICE OF THE FLORIDA SUNCOAST, INC.

i.e. Schiavo v. Schiavo. Didn't you ever see Kramer vs. Kramer?
65 posted on 03/26/2005 2:34:41 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: BCrago66

I was talking about from the beginning and didn't make it clear -- starting way back.


66 posted on 03/26/2005 2:35:47 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: BCrago66

And to add -- how much has been spent on attorney fees.


67 posted on 03/26/2005 2:36:38 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: Mark in the Old South

I think we can take a two pronged approach - nominating more conservative judges AND having the legislative and executive branchs take back their 1/3's of their constitutional powers. What we don't need is people bashing the Bushes.


68 posted on 03/26/2005 2:37:20 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Do you happen to have a link to the pleadings or tell me where you found them?


69 posted on 03/26/2005 2:37:55 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: EDINVA
Kennedy and Souter were substitute appointees who were nominated only after the original choices of Reagan and Bush were defeated in the Senate, lest anyone forget. Remember Bork and Ginsberg?

I think most of us who were there at the time said "Give the ba****rds somebody even more conservative!"
71 posted on 03/26/2005 2:39:23 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: ClintonBeGone

http://www.findlaw.com


72 posted on 03/26/2005 2:40:21 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: ClintonBeGone

http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/schiavo/index.html

FindLaw is where I found them.


73 posted on 03/26/2005 2:40:48 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: bigeasy_70118
the 11th Cir. does not release the vote tally.

I didn't know that -- is this specific to the 11th or true of all the Circuits?

74 posted on 03/26/2005 2:41:42 PM PST by maryz
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To: maryz

Not sure about every Circuit, but in the two circuits, I practice before, the 5th releases the vote for an en banc hearing and the 11th does not.


75 posted on 03/26/2005 2:43:31 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: ClintonBeGone
Re: "What we don't need is people bashing the Bushes."

I think you are wrong on this. I doubt the Congress will do a darn thing nor will either of the Bushes. All could get the ball rolling yesterday but they will not because they have no problem with the ruling but they have lots of problems with criticism and angry voters at the polls.

You use the tools in the tool box. If bashing a few posers get them moving, they will just have to act or they can just take it. Unless my freedom of speech is to be taken away like Terri's food and water. Until then I will bash away.
76 posted on 03/26/2005 2:43:53 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Please get your facts straight: Legislatures pass laws. A court order is a judgement. Taking that action to make a statute binding is enforcement. They are three entirely different functions.

They are three entirely different functions of THE LAW.

A judgement without law is not legal. Enforcement without law and judgement has no legality or justice. A judgement without law has no entitlement to enforcement. A judgement without enforcement has no effect.

Wrong, common law is law based on precedent, not legislative statutes. The 7th Amendment protects your right to trial by jury in common law cases, cases where there are no legislative statutes. Not only did the Founding Fathers recognize this as law, they viewed it as an essential core function of the courts.

77 posted on 03/26/2005 2:52:13 PM PST by Crackingham
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To: bigeasy_70118

It seems to me that in the best interests of accountability (yes, I know they're not elected but I couldn't think of a better word) that the names of the judges who voted to accept or deny an appeal should be published.


78 posted on 03/26/2005 2:54:47 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: maryz

That's with all federal circuits. In the rare case, when there's a written dissent joined by 5 judges out of a 12 judge court, then we know how every judge voted.

But those justices who voted no need not author or join a written dissent, and when there is a written dissent that is joined by less than 5 judges, one cannot assume that every judge who voted no joined it.


80 posted on 03/26/2005 3:05:35 PM PST by BCrago66
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