Posted on 03/21/2005 11:54:31 AM PST by BB62
I passed along the affidavit which many of us have seen, presumably by Carla Sauer Iyer. Is it FAKE or real??
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aff2-terri.pdf
My sister, a notary public (not in FL), came back with the following:
"Please do not believe everything you read. This supposed notarized document is not legal it is missing the county in which the notary resides, along with her name printed, typed or stamped beneath her signature. In addition, there is no record of a Patricia Anderson with that commission number listed with the state of Florida. In other words, like most of the stuff you get via email, IT IS A HOAX designed to get you to believe something that is completely fabricated. I hope you forward this information to the same people to whom you sent the original email."
Forgive my unsureness with posting. I hope I have put things in the right place in this post.
So... I throw open the subject to those more knowledgeable than I - is it fake? One thing I noticed and questioned, even before receiving my sister's e-mail, was the neither the "did/did not" was circled at the end of the document. I found that very strange.
BB62
bump to get this answered
So, why would this document be faked?
Who benefits (1) if it is believed to be real?
Who benefits, (2) if it is proved to be faked?
"So, why would this document be faked?"
We can speculate on the MANY, many reasons, but that is not the point of my post.
Very simply, I am asking for those more knowledgeable than I to assess the document - not unlike the See BS news documents.
I'd sure appreciate any input on the matter.
BB62
"So, with all that was made of memogate, I would hope that he has had it authenticated before its airing."
I would hope so too, but I would sure feel more comfortable if we could put it under the collective eye.
BB62
I can't comment on your sister's observations but I did download the pdf file from the provided link and zoomed in on the notary's seal which has an imprinted date of December 12, 2003.
Since the affiant's appearance is dated August 29, 2003 there appears to be something amiss here, too say the least.
After reading your post, I did the same and it appears the December 12 date is an experation date.
Please disregard first reply. I read the date before reading the text. Muy Bad.
That isn't an issue... the notary's commission expires in December 2003. They usually are good for a year or two, so this makes perfect sense. I can't make out the notary's commission number, but there is a site where you can look up the notaries, and there are a number of Patricia Anderson's listed.
Maybe you can help me with posting this to a wider audience - and asking for input to verify authenticity.
This is only about my fifth post to FR - how and where should I post it to get maximum exposure/input?
Thanks!
BB62
Patricia Anderson is or was an attorney working for the Schlinder family. It is quite possible she is also a notary.
Goofed, Sorry
"That isn't an issue... the notary's commission expires in December 2003. They usually are good for a year or two, so this makes perfect sense. I can't make out the notary's commission number, but there is a site where you can look up the notaries, and there are a number of Patricia Anderson's listed."
I found such a site, but there is no Patricia Anderson with a matching commission #! Add to that my sister's other points "it is missing the county in which the notary resides, along with her name printed, typed or stamped beneath her signature" and I am really wondering.
Of course, I would like to stuff it back in her face (since she's a know it all anyway!) - but she has good points I am unable to respond to.
And then there is the uncircled "did/did not" that I noticed...
BB62
"Patricia Anderson is or was an attorney working for the Schlinder family. It is quite possible she is also a notary."
Two questions - 1) how do you know that, and 2) why aren't the elements my sister noted (and I - the "did/did not") present?
If she was an attorney, isn't there a law firm name usually listed?
It bothers me too that there is no printed name for Patricia Anderson on the affidavit, except for what might be a difficult to read seal.
BB^2
Patricia Anderson was the attorney who represented the Schindlers for years. It's not a stretch that she would also be a notary.
Back again, this time with something useful, I Hope.
Patricia Anderson is/was the Schindler's lawyer according to this link - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34175
It's my understanding that lawyers are notaries also.
Sorry for duplicate info! LOL
If you access any old articles from 2003 about Terri, the last time they attempted to dehydrate her, she should be mentioned. Those of us who have followed the case closely all this time will remember her. Maybe if you go to www.terrisfight.org you will see other documents bearing her name as the attorney?
"Patricia Anderson was the attorney who represented the Schindlers for years. It's not a stretch that she would also be a notary."
Okay, let's accept that that is the case.
A few questions:
1) Is there somewhere that references her?
2) Why doesn't the notary # appear when a search is done at the Florida Dept of State?
3) Why is there no name below Patricia Anderson's signature, as required by Florida statute?
See this site : http://notaries.dos.state.fl.us/education/faq/index.html
And this question "When notarizing a signature, what elements must be included in my notarial certificate?"
The county and state do appear (I just caught it) at the top of the document.
BB62
Here is the info. on the attorney -
PATRICIA FIELDS ANDERSON, ESQ.
Fla. Bar No. 352871
447 THIRD AVENUE NORTH, SUITE 405
ST. PETERSBURG, FL 33701
Phone: (727) 895-6505; Fax: (727) 898-4903
I realize the Middle initial is different - but (I am a notary also) it could be her Maiden name is "Fields" and her given middle name is the J.
I found her notary seal on several documents in the case - several from health care providers of Terri.
I believe it is legit - it has been posted over 100 times on various sites (Including ABC News ) which isn't a friend of Terri.... I doubt they would print this if it were a hoax.... Easy enough to look up the legal documents if you have access to Legal site software.....
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