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Bad Girls vs. Good Girls
askmen.com ^ | matthew fitsgerald

Posted on 03/08/2005 4:31:40 PM PST by pissant

There's an old joke that goes: Good girls say, "No;" bad girls ask, "When?" It's the classic dichotomy for the male psyche -- madonna vs. whore, Mary Ann vs. Ginger, housewife vs. ho, homebody vs. party girl. Which of the two is better?

As men, we're instantly aroused by the Pamela Andersons of the world, but inside we know we could never tame -- much less trust -- a female like this. Instinctively we seek out more normal, down-to-earth women when we're thinking of marriage and children.

Still, it's a problem that never goes away. We want the best of both worlds: a princess on the street and a whore in the bedroom. Someone who is nice and treats us with respect, yet who acts like a wildcat in heat between the sheets. So just what are the advantages and disadvantages of dating bad girls and good girls? And is it possible to somehow combine the two types into one perfect woman?

First, let's look at some of the qualities embodied by the Bad Girl:

the goods on the bad girl

She's fun She can party all night, drink herself into a stupor and still get up the next day and be ready for more. She'll laugh and flirt, and make you feel like a man.

She's exciting Bad girls are walking adrenaline rushes. For her, life is a roller coaster ride, and it'll get your blood singing just to be along for the trip. Bad girls never have time for introspection or depression -- they're too busy grabbing the world by the horns.

She craves sex The bad girl loves men and makes no bones about it. She's more than happy to fulfill any fantasy you can dream up. She's the kind who will tear up the sheets while she's screaming out her seventh orgasm in a row (you'll feel like you're the king of the sexual world). And you won't have to deal with any head games -- she's more than happy to seduce you 24/7.

She's eye candy Bad girls are usually very attractive with jaw-dropping figures -- the ultimate "hot babes." They know how to walk the walk and strut their stuff. They get off on being the center of male attention. A bad girl loves plunging necklines, bare midriffs, high heels, skirts hemmed at mid-thigh, strapless anything, and sexy lingerie (if she wears any underwear at all).

She ups your status When you have a stunner like this on your arm, all other men are jealous and women are intrigued, and immediately your stud rating soars into the stratosphere. You'll be the stuff of legends when you regale your buddies with tales from your bedroom.

The bads on the bad girl:

She's untrustworthy All men want her and she knows it, and she's definitely a serial flirter. Because she's such a sexual animal, she's apt to seduce anyone who strikes her fancy, so you shouldn't expect a bad girl to be loyal.

She's dangerous She's the type who will go 100 in a 30 mph zone just because she likes the rush. She may be into drugs or excessive alcohol consumption. She's spontaneous, unpredictable and wild.

She makes a bad partner Bad girls are extremely self-obsessed and selfish. They think about one person: themselves. They're extravagant and will spend their last dime on themselves. They don't settle down comfortably. For these reasons, they usually make lousy wives and mothers, and rarely survive lifelong relationships.

She is expensive No low-maintenance here -- from day one she'll be looting your wallet for expensive meals, trips and jewelry. The typical bad girl sets a very high price on the use of her vagina, and if you don't want to cough up the cash, there'll be plenty of guys panting in the wings to pay her price.

the goods on the good girl

She's wholesome and nice A good girl is rarely bitchy or "empowered." She's pleasant to be around and has a positive attitude toward life. She'll go out of her way to help you or take care of you when you're sick, and when problems arise, she'll discuss them calmly, instead of flying into a rage or screaming at you just because you're a "man."

She's a clean slate With her limited sexual experience, a good girl doesn't have a lot of men to compare you to and won't expect you to be a world-class lover.

She's unlikely to cheat on you Good girls tend to be homebodies, not party girls. Because she doesn't present herself in the same sexually-alluring manner that a bad girl does, you won't have to worry about a lot of other guys coming on to her. A good girl wants to find the one true love of her life and stay with him until death do them part, instead of seducing half the male population before she gets too old.

She's often your best friend She genuinely enjoys your company and gives back to you as much as she takes. When you're gone, she misses you; when you're at home, she showers you with attention.

She's easier on finances Good girls can rate low on the maintenance scale -- they're much more likely to share dating expenses (just because it's the right thing to do), and if you get married, she'll happily throw her paycheck in with yours to pay the mortgage and bills.

She makes a good wife & mother The typical good girl is practical, down-to-earth and nurturing. She loves children. She usually comes from a good family and wants to carry on those family values in her own life.

the bads on the good girl

She's about as exciting as vanilla Since she'd rather stay at home reading a book than go out partying, life with a good girl can be a bit uneventful.

She can be a sexual dud Good girls are often boring in bed, either from lack of experience or lack of desire. Sex with her is predictable. She rarely inspires lust and will probably wait for her man to initiate lovemaking. This can leave the typical guy very unfulfilled, his gaze straying toward that bad girl over there with the unfettered nipples and the long wraparound legs.

She's fashionably comfortable She wears her hair pulled back and little make-up. She prefers sweats and tennis shoes to mini skirts and pumps. Oftentimes, you can forget about thong underwear.

the good to bad…

So the question remains: Which one should you choose? The obvious answer is that the perfect woman would embody the best of both of these types -- the niceness and loyalty of the good girl and the sexual abandon of the bad girl.

While such women may exist naturally out there, it's more likely that, to achieve this ideal, you'll have to train a good girl to be bad (because there's no way a bad girl is going to be good).

How?

Well, this may not be an easy task, because many good girls have been brainwashed by mom, church or school into thinking that "bad" is inherently wrong. So the trick is to encourage her natural sexuality. Make her comfortable with sex. Romance her. Tell her how sexy she is when she seduces you or fulfills your fantasies -- or how satisfying it is to fulfill hers. Let her understand that great sex between the two of you can create an awesome bond, and that it is -- ultimately -- "good."

So while bad girls can be exciting, they're usually only worth it in the short term. If you can find a good girl and turn her into a sexual animal, you may just have found the perfect woman. And pretty soon, your good girl may be asking, "When?"


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To: pissant; cyborg; Huntress; Liz; missyme; MeekOneGOP; SierraWasp; ValerieUSA; ...
There's an old joke that goes: Good girls say, "No;" bad girls ask, "When?"

And in that old 'joke' is buried a deceptive premise, a LIE, that goes to the heart of male-female relationships: that ALL males pressure Good Girls to say yes--and that such is to be expected, even from a Godly man. HARDLY. WWJD? A worthy man, I contend, also knows he must defend a woman from his own urges--and her from hers.

We're told in Scripture that the woman is a "weaker vessel." That's NOT a put-down--that's a call to honor and defend. The male who is willing to bed a willing girl outside of marriage shows that his most profound DEFAULT is short-term gratification. His default YES puts the woman in charge of crucial aspects of the relationship. From my experience--few women truly want that; IIRC, it is James Dobson who refers to this creating a woman's distrust in a man's leadership.

Yes, I advocate and (sigh, at times reluctantly) am practicing virginity until marriage. I believe that's the way a man shows a woman respect--and shows himself respectable. I willingly trade short-term gratification for the benefits of abstinence, which include zero risk of communicable diseases, abortion/paternity/child support issues etc.

If a Song of Solomonic pun can be permitted, Virgins Unite! As God told Elisha in the cave after the victory over Jezebel's 400 prophets of Baal, "seven thousand haven't bent the knee." So I keep on looking for her, I know she's out there....
41 posted on 03/08/2005 5:44:18 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Blurblogger

Whoa Nelly


42 posted on 03/08/2005 5:45:23 PM PST by pissant
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To: Blurblogger

Agreed.


43 posted on 03/08/2005 5:49:22 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: pissant

To think I used to believe there were no guys who were virgins, wanted chaste girls for girlfriends,etc.etc.etc.


44 posted on 03/08/2005 5:52:05 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: pissant

Just as the 'nice guy/jerk' paradigm is needlessly limiting (as well as false) for many men, the 'madonna/whore' paradigm is needlessly limiting (as well as false) for women.

In both cases they tend to be used as excuses for underperformance, failure, or poor life-circumstance.

It's easier for men to say 'women don't like nice guys, they want jerks' and let themselves get consistently turned down.

It's easier for women to say 'men don't like good girls, they like sluts' and let themselves get consistently turned down.

In each case, the complainers add energy and life to the paradigm, and even though it isn't a legit way of looking at things, they breathe life into it to explain their situation (usually an unsatisfactory situation).

Each paradigm is silly - it is only true to the extent that a person buys into it. Indeed, whenever I read any kind of extended thoughts on these paradigms, I figure the person writing it has a very immature view of things.

And usually, I'm right.


45 posted on 03/08/2005 5:52:49 PM PST by HitmanLV
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To: cyborg

I think there are quite a few guys who would like to marry virgins. However, they sabotage the deal because in their twenties they expend alot of effort to depopulate that group. ;0}


46 posted on 03/08/2005 5:54:51 PM PST by pissant
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To: missyme

Maybe that's why we like you so much here, we're cavemen!


47 posted on 03/08/2005 5:55:47 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

"Whoa Nelly"

It's Whoa Blurblogger to you! LOL


48 posted on 03/08/2005 5:56:56 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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Maybe Men and Women are like Food everybody wants Chocolate Cake- Because it looks good tastes good makes you feel good but eat enough of it well then bad results happen.

But if you try say Tofu well it's boring tastes boring doesn't look all that good but the end result it's positive...


49 posted on 03/08/2005 5:57:14 PM PST by missyme (long haired freaky people need not apply)
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To: Blurblogger

That's funny!


50 posted on 03/08/2005 5:57:41 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

I think it's incredibly hypocritical that men who aren't virgins demand girls be as such. Who were they sleeping with in college but someone's future wife.


51 posted on 03/08/2005 5:58:10 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: missyme

LOL


52 posted on 03/08/2005 5:58:42 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: pissant

LOL..Just don't call me Wilma....


53 posted on 03/08/2005 5:59:09 PM PST by missyme (long haired freaky people need not apply)
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Missyme,
I think you just qualified for Laura Ingraham's "deep thought of the day". ;o}


54 posted on 03/08/2005 5:59:22 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

bump!


55 posted on 03/08/2005 6:00:06 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

Hypocrits? Men? It can't be! ;o}


56 posted on 03/08/2005 6:01:18 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Yeah I know *lol*


57 posted on 03/08/2005 6:01:46 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: pissant

I have a feeling most around here want Chocolate Cake anyways...Haha


58 posted on 03/08/2005 6:01:49 PM PST by missyme (long haired freaky people need not apply)
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To: missyme

I always liked Betty better (short hair & all...)


59 posted on 03/08/2005 6:02:44 PM PST by pissant
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To: Drew68

Now you did it.

There are more 'Donnas' than 'Madonnas.'


60 posted on 03/08/2005 6:04:08 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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