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To: TexasCowboy
It's not about smoking and health any more than seat belt laws were about safety. It's about control.

What does seat belt laws have to do with this? Do you have something morally against them?

I always wear mine, and I live in NH, where there are no seat belt laws.

55 posted on 02/14/2005 7:04:16 AM PST by shekkian
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To: shekkian
It's not the idea of wearing or not wearing.
I wear mine, also, because I've gotten used to it, but I don't like any governmental agency telling me I MUST do something in my own vehicle.
This is an invasion of my personal property rights.
59 posted on 02/14/2005 7:08:44 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: shekkian; TexasCowboy
It's not about smoking and health any more than seat belt laws were about safety. It's about control.

What does seat belt laws have to do with this? Do you have something morally against them?

You know "darn" well that's not the point he was trying to make.
Don't use a diversion to avoid the issue.. That's a Liberal ploy

The point was Control..
Here is "the seat belt example:
Voluntary seatbelt use encouraged..
Seat belt laws passed.. only in conjunction with normal traffic stops..
Traffic stops made solely on basis of seat belt use..
Road blocks and "safety inspections" for the express purpose of checking for seat belt use, replete with tickets/fines for non-compliance..

This is the procedure..
It can be applied to smoking as well...
Beginning with the ban on smoking on airlines.. international flights first, then national..
Bans in government facilities.. National, then state, then local.. ( extreme examples, ban of smoking within city limits, exist today. No smoking even outside, if within city limits. )
Bans in "public places".. Malls, etc.. (local, county ordinances)
Bans in restaurants.. then bars..
Some bans exist on smoking in one's own car..and in one's own home..

What do you have against personal freedom?
Do you have something morally against it?
Or is it your political philosophy ?

64 posted on 02/14/2005 7:22:39 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: shekkian
I always wear mine, and I live in NH, where there are no seat belt laws.

And that is the way it should be. The government should not FORCE you to wear one........just like the government should not FORCE a private business to ban smoking. Seat belt laws force you to do something you may not want to do on your private property. Smoking bans force a business owner to something he may not want to do on his.

Most, but not all, of my friends that own bars and/or restauarants or any other type of business, are smokers themselves, and they are no longer permitted to do so within their privately owned property.

81 posted on 02/14/2005 8:15:59 AM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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