The Communism won

01/26/2005 | uiapuru

[uiapuru]

The Communism won, at least this round. The USA is the most hated nation of the world, socialists and communists dominated the media and Fidel Castro extends his power through Latin America. Latin American citizens are being indoctrinated about Communism, hating the USA and loving Cuba and China.

It is not by accident this year the Academy Awards will have two Latin American highly celebrated movies. One of these movies is a biography of Che Guevara and the other tells the heroic saga of a Jew young woman KGB agent in Latin America.

Are all the Americans sleeping?

[thoughtomator]

Welcome to FR. Communism, if you hadn't noticed, is dead.

[bahblahbah]

Not only that, but both government has been co-opted by lovers of the intrusive big government police state. Yeah we lost.

[bahblahbah]

Damn it i forgot. "nanny police"

[bad company]

Not all of us are asleep. Marxism is alive and well.

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On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals into the Congressional Record. The list was derived from researcher Cleon Skousen’s book “The Naked Communist.” These principles are well worth revisiting today in order to gain insights into the thinking and strategies of much of our so-called liberal elite.

1. U.S. should accept coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. should be willing to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

These encapsulate the Kennan Doctrine, which advocated for the "containment" of communism. Establishment figures supporting the amoral containment policy at least implicitly worked with the communists in scaring the wits out of the American people concerning atomic war.

President Ronald Reagan undid the doctrine when he took an aggressive stand against the Evil Empire by backing freedom fighters from around the world that were struggling against the left-wing communist jackboot. As a result, the Soviet Union and its satellites imploded, a considerable and unexpected setback to the international communist edifice.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of "moral strength."

The nuclear freeze advocates supported a freeze on American nuclear development only. Rarely were Soviet nukes or those of other nations mentioned in their self-righteous tirades. The same advocates now call for reducing American military might, claiming that there is something immoral about America preserving its military pre-eminence in the world.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. Today, there are calls to end the embargo on the slave island of Cuba, there were complaints about the embargo against Iraq, and the U.S., not Saddam Hussein, was blamed for the suffering of the Iraqi people. Would they have advocated for free trade with Hitler and his National Socialist regime?

5. Extend long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

Such aid and trade over decades contributed greatly to the left-wing communist liquidation of over 100 million people worldwide, according to the well-documented "Black Book of Communism."

This aid and trade marks a shameful chapter in American history. Without the aid and trade, the left-wing international communist behemoth would have imploded on its own rot a lot sooner and umpteen millions would have been saved from poverty, misery, starvation and death.

7. Grant recognition of Red China and admission of Red China to the U.N

. Not only did President Jimmy Carter fulfill this goal but he also betrayed America’s allies in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Iran, Afghanistan, Angola and elsewhere.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the U.S. has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

There are still American intellectuals, and elected members of Congress, who dream of an eventual one world government and who view the U.N., founded by communists such as Alger Hiss, the first secretary-general, as the instrument to bring this about.

World government was also the dream of Adolf Hitler and J.V. Stalin. World government was the dream of Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers.

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

While the idea of banning any political party runs contrary to notions of American freedom and liberty, notions that are the exact opposite of those held by the left-wing communists themselves, nevertheless these goals sought to undermine the constitutional obligation of Congress to investigate subversion. The weakening of our government’s ability to conduct such investigations led to the attack of 9/11.

It is entirely proper and appropriate for our government to expect employees, paid by the American taxpayer, to take an oath of loyalty.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.

In his book "Reagan’s War," Peter Schweizer demonstrates the astonishing degree to which communists and communist sympathizers have penetrated the Democratic Party. In his book, Schweizer writes about the presidential election of 1979.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

This strategy goes back to the founding of the American Civil Liberties Union by Fabian Socialists Roger Baldwin and John Dewey and Communists William Z. Foster and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn among others.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack.

The success of these goals, from a communist perspective, is obvious. Is there any doubt this is so?

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24.Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy."

This is the Gramscian agenda of the "long march through the institutions" spelled out explicitly: gradual takeover of the "means of communication" and then using those vehicles to debauch the culture and weaken the will of the individual to resist.

Today those few who still have the courage to advocate public morality are denounced and viciously attacked. Most Americans are entirely unwitting regarding the motives behind this agenda.

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

This has been largely accomplished through the communist infiltration of the National Council of Churches, Conservative and Reform Judaism, and the Catholic seminaries.

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

Replacing belief in the creator with belief in the earthly man-controlled State.

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

And replace our nation of "laws, not men" with royal decree emanating from appointed judges and executive orders. Replace elected officials with bureaucrats.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

Obliterating the American past, with its antecedents in principles of freedom, liberty and private ownership is a major goal of the communists then and now.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

Public ownership of the means of production, the core principle of totalitarianism.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

Turn America into a socialist police state.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat. The Soviets used to send "social misfits" and those deemed politically incorrect to massive mental institutions called gulags. The Red Chinese call them lao gai. Hitler called them concentration camps.

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose communist goals.

Psychiatry remains a bulwark of the communist agenda of fostering self-criticism and docility.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

Done! The sovereign family is the single most powerful obstacle to authoritarian control.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

Outcome-based education, values clarification or whatever they’re calling it this year.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.

This describes the dialectical fostering of group consciousness and conflict, which furthers the interests of authoritarianism.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

The results of this successful campaign are increasingly obvious in the world today.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

This would mark a complete subversion of our Constitution and an end to representative sovereign government as we know it, which is the whole idea.

[thoughtomator]

That's a very pretty prepared list, but the fact remains that there are a lot fewer Communist states than there were 20 years ago and the world is moving in the opposite direction.

It's been 16 years since the Berlin Wall fell; 14 years since the Soviet Union disintegrated. Not one new Communist state has come into existence since then. Going off about a Communist boogeyman at this point sounds reactionary and paranoid.

Am I supposed to believe that the collapse of Communism worldwide is a secret Communist plot to put us off guard?

[uiapuru]

Dead? Ah ah ah ah ah. Tell me another:

http://www.farcep.org/
http://www.mstbrazil.org/
http://www.nodo50.org/americalibre/
http://www.vermelho.org.br/pcdob/
http://www.marxismo.org/
http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br/index.php?cd_language=2&id_menu=
http://www.comunismo.com.br/
http://www.unidadepopular.org/
http://www.che-lives.com/home/

I could put a hundred of another webpages here(some are from government, political parties, important social organizations), but I think it is not very convenient. Besides I dont have too much time now.

[bad company]

Not one new Communist state has come into existence since then

South africa is now a socialist state. Zimbabwe is now a socialist state.

Am I supposed to believe that the collapse of Communism worldwide is a secret Communist plot to put us off guard?

Just halftime.

[thoughtomator]

Yeah there are still Nazis around too. Puzzlingly enough, I'm not too worried about it.

[thoughtomator]

#1 Communism and socialism are not the same thing.

#2 If the best they can get for their USSR and all of Eastern Europe is South Africa and Zimbabwe... well, they ain't on the top three list of totalitarian global menaces anymore.

[bad company]

#1 Communism and socialism are not the same thing.

Petty semantics.

#2 If the best they can get for their USSR and all of Eastern Europe is South Africa and Zimbabwe... well, they ain't on the top three list of totalitarian global menaces anymore.

Zimbabwe will be catastrophic.

[thoughtomator]

I see your ten links and raise you one.

http://www.resist.com/
http://www.aryan-nations.org/
http://www.twelvearyannations.com/
http://www.stormfront.org/
http://www.aryanradio.com/
http://www.aryanwear.com/
http://www.whitechildren.com/
http://www.keystonestateskinheads.com/
http://members.odinsrage.com/arb/
http://panzerfaust.com/
http://www.armyofgod.com/
http://www.whitepower.com/

Oh no! The Nazis are coming! Everyone wake up!!!!!

[uiapuru]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. It is true the Communist governments of Europe and Soviet Union collapsed. But what happened to all Communist politician and lovers? Did they become Republicans?
Did they moved to Tibet and became monks? No. They are well and working at the side-scenes.

Also the Communism ideas are not completly vanished from Europe. And the Communism forces are very active at the South Hemisphere. Even a blind man can see that.

Now, if you prefer thinking that it is all paranoid... The problem is yours.

[West Coast Conservative]

USA 1
USSR 0

[thoughtomator]

You've got to be kidding me, if you think we should divert an ounce of resources from fighting Islam to dealing with a defunct ideology. Socialism "jumped the shark", so to speak, even the Chinese are mapping their way out of it.

Zimbabwe is not socialist. It is a dictatorship. And nothing that happens there is particularly important to us here.

South Africa voted for the mess its got, now it's got to lie in the bed it made.

If you're really worried about a return of socialism, then the EU should be your focus, not marginal third-world countries.

In the meantime the rest of us will be fighting the jihadis, and would be pleased to have you join us.

[uiapuru]

You should remember to all Latin American parties, governements and press that the Communism is dead. They still have the opposite opinions.

[thoughtomator]

Actually, the problem isn't mine; I'm not the one chasing phantoms of an era that no longer exists.

A lot of people have your problem though, they just can't seem to adjust to the fact that the Cold War is over.

[thoughtomator]

Wake me up when there's a reason for me to care about Latin America.

[uiapuru]

You see the collapse of Communism worldwide as the end of the Communism, as a proof the Communism does not work.
But the Communists didn't agree with you. They see the collapse of Communism as a misadventure. They are still believing in the Communism agenda.

After I see local newspapers praising the glory of Communism times, armed Communism movements acting freely, self-declared Communists politician raising to high posts in government, the red and the hammer and sickle becoming a part of the daily scenery, how do you dare to say all this thing is paranoid?

[uiapuru]

You posted several links of ordinary featureless lunatic people. Unfortunarely, although my lunatics are not so featureless:

The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia are acting since 1968. They have killed or injuried 1392 people untill now, many of them are Americans.
http://www.farcep.org/

The MST is a large Marxist inspired movemement. It acts freely in Brazil illegally occupying lands with government political and financial support. According to their website in 2003 were 632 camps (inside invaded areas) Brazil countrywide:
http://www.mstbrazil.org/

America Libre is the magazine of the Foro de São Paulo, an organization whose members members include: National Liberation Army, the FARC, Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front, Guatemalan National Revolutionary Unity, Sandinista National Liberation Front, Tupamaros, and the Communist Party of Cuba. This group is lead by Cuban President Fidel Castro and Brazilian President Lula da Silva.
http://www.nodo50.org/americalibre/

One of the Brazilian Communist Parties ("one" because there are several others). The Communist party has increased its participation in Brazil political scenary lately as never it did before.
http://www.vermelho.org.br/pcdob/

http://www.marxismo.org/

This event is a meeting which is sometimes news by international press. The meeting is self-declared anti-liberalism and praises Fidel Castro, Cuba, Iraq resistance and at same time there are highly protests against the USA:
http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br/index.php?cd_language=2&id_menu=

Many of these sites are from well organized people, intellectuals, activists, people who works or study at Universities. They are not mere alone people with Communism nostalgia:
http://www.comunismo.com.br/
http://www.unidadepopular.org/
http://www.che-lives.com/home/

I will say more when I get more free time.