Posted on 01/19/2005 8:46:41 PM PST by ClintonBeGone
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Should have seen that coming. I think it was a good move on her part. Verna wasn't with the program. Danny lasted longer than I thought he would.
roflmao! We knew what was going on all right.
He's the boss, he can do what he wants. A corporation is not a democracy and is never run on consensus. Some small department might work that way, but not the executive wing.
I was delighted to see Danny leave. He had the sensibilities of a social worker, not a business leader. Clearly a Kerry voter singing Kumbaya to the pretty black lady who wasn't going to participate. (Liberal guys always cozy up to pretty ladies with their faux understanding act, a sexual gambit most of the time.)
Meanwhile, on the other team, good things happened with Angie at the helm. They had excitement, they had focus, they were much much smarter than the book smarts kids, their idea of serving a choice of iced or hot Taster's CHOICE was clever and definitely could be developed into a professional ad campaign. I think Angie will go far in the game. She's the first person I've seen who had any initiative and talent.
>>I was delighted to see Danny leave. He had the sensibilities of a social worker, not a business leader. Clearly a Kerry voter singing Kumbaya to the pretty black lady who wasn't going to participate. (Liberal guys always cozy up to pretty ladies with their faux understanding act, a sexual gambit most of the time.)<<
This is all silly speculation. You don't know who he voted for. I don't have his hair length, but I also play the guitar and sing (we'll set aside, for now, the quality of the latter). Does that make me a Kerry voter?
As far as "cozy(ing) up," I saw it as him being sympathetic to someone he perceived to be in need. He asked the team for their support, they essentially refused, the girl quit, and that was the end of it. He didn't chastize them for their views, and I think he fully understood them.
I liked Danny because he's one of the first contestants that seems to have integrity. He didn't want to engage in backstabbing. He didn't want to insist his problems were really others', etc. No, he didn't have good leadership skills, and probably wasn't going to last very long here, but leadership skills can be learned and I'd hire him over a bunch of people I've seen.
I didn't dislike DAnny. But I've met his clones a lot and know what I'm talking about when it comes to how they hit on grrrrrrrrrls. Maybe he was different in that respect, but we'll never know.
Did you see the first season? Troy, the street smart fellow from Idaho, had even better people skills than Danny, never came off as manipulative, was a natural businessman with killer instincts and a huge heart. And dead-on honest. He was in the final five, and as I understand it, Trump (and the audience) liked him so much he is paying to send him through business school. I would have hired him in a heartbeat, but at the end he was in over his head, thanks to lack of those polished skills the MBAs acquired at school.
Perhaps the producers hoped that Danny would become the next Troy, but he could not hold it together in spite of having a genuine niceness about him. Lack of connection between team members has made this and the last Apprentice rather dull. But Apprentice I had Troy from rightwing red state Idaho forming an improbable got-your-back-good-buddy alliance with black Kwaame the Harvard MBA and believeable sexy chemistry between lovely effective Amy and the cute sharp redheaded fellow, named Nick as I recall. Amy and Nick were in the final four and everyone wondered if and when they'd stop slow dancing and stab each other in the back. Those inter-candidate relationships made the show terrific.
I rather imagine that producers look for people who will click with each other, but who can predict? Last season's Raj and Maria were both gorgeous, should have been an item, but 1. she was married and 2. the men were pitted against the women, so no sparks flew.
As for leadership skills being learned, I agree to some extent, but you cannot teach someone to have that fire inside that the great businessmen have, that determination, that instinct that so many of them run on. The woman who left seemed to have all the advantages, was beautiful, pleasant, likeable, educated to lead, but had no fire. Angie, last night's PM exhibited the first real fire I've seen this season. Others may have it too, in a more quiet way. So we'll see.
Come to think of it, does Donald have the fire? Yes, I think he does. Other men have had the advantages of being brought up in their fathers' businesses but most make a mess of things. To far surpass one's father takes great fire IMHO.
In watching the replay (CNBC Friday nights), there were two things I picked up the second time.
1) Bren *nominated* Danny to be the project manager and Danny took the bait. I'm starting to think that after the Burger King disaster when most of them wanted to get rid of Danny that some of the guys decided to make Danny PM and then not do anything more than they absolutely had to in order to get him fired.
2) Is is Mike (the guy who had the exemption) who starts the show talking about how Verna needs to leave if she can't be a team player and give her best on each task, blah, blah. And then Mike winds up tanking on the task.
I think Danny was set up to be sacked. Not that I don't think Danny deserved it but I think his Matthew Lesko routine was getting on some people's nerves and the sooner they got rid of him, the better.
>>Troy, . . . dead-on honest.<<
This isn't true. There was one episode where they were selling to a couple where he flat out lied to them.
I'm not going to pre-judge anyone on a reality show. Yes, certain people remind me of certain others, but I know several odd-balls that march to the beat of a different drummer, yet are as or more conservative than I am. And if you judged me by my weekend wardrobe, you'd think I am a college student who waits tables rather than an attorney who defends restaurants!
>>Bren *nominated* Danny<<
I picked up on that right off and told my wife, he was trying to set Danny up. I don't think Danny figured it out.
My only point is that while Danny isn't the most prudent leader and business person, I'd still take him over a lot of the contestants on the first three seasons due to various factors. And remember, I said I "liked" him; not that I'd want him running a big company of mine.
After watching the boardroom a second time, I think Bren not only set up Danny but he may have also set up Mike. Bren made it clear that Danny was responsible for the loss but that Mike was the worst player on the team which got quite a reaction from Mike.
On the first episode, Bren said people see the bow tie, the unkempt hair and the southern accent and assume he's a simpleton. Maybe he is really slowly eliminating the guys he sees as threats by getting them to think he is on their side and then slyly stabbing them in the back.
Bren was also the person who came up with the Ipod idea, FWIW. And Nestle essentially beat down Magna because they seemed to be marketing Ipods as much as they were coffee. The reason Nestle liked Net Worth's promotion better was that they focused on the coffee.
Outstanding! I hope you hammer the creeps who sue restaurants for getting fat and spilling coffee.
In the days when I was PR person for one of the big California banks, you would not have known it on weekends either. I lived at the beach and rocked with the crowd, put on my game face and tailored suits Monday mornings and wrote speeches for bank execs--most of whom were idiots.
I think Troy got fired the time he BSed prospective buyers or tenants.
Don't miss tonight's show. According to Trump on Imus the other day, in this week's episode, 'something that's never happened before' happens. Now we've all heard that before :)
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Dove body wash short film *lol*
I hate the bowtie. Sorry but it only worked for the guy asking out Ann Kournikova *lol*
The bow tie is the least of this Tennessee DA's problems. I'm sitting here watching his commercial, embarrassed in my own house! YIKES!!! Which commercial is worse??????
They both stink! LOL
Don't these people know that you use body wash on your body and you use facial cleanser on your face? Rinse that stuff off, dude!
I won't even start on the other ad. What were they thinking with the cucumbers? This is supposed to appeal to a large audience.
Fire all of them, Donald!
Yeah I agree.
I was asking myself who *didn't* deserve to be fired after this. Alex is one. The black girl we never see is another. I really haven't seen a misstep from Tana yet even though she was called into the boardroom. And John has been okay. Pretty much everyone else has already lost it with me.
Oh well, Kristen deserved to go for the way she acted in the motel fiasco. She obviously had no respect from her teammates.
And I was wrong about Bren. He's obviously not savvy enough to be setting up others to be fired.
And, to state the obvious, both commercials were absolutlely horrible and I wouldn't be surprised if the Dove spot with Donald and Caroline was NBC/Trump's way of making up to them for showcasing their product in such a horrible manner. Still, I didn't like their commercial either but then I'm not their target audience.
Want my ad idea? Think "cool as a cucumber".
Both commercials stunk. What were they thinking? The book smarts people are probably more liberal and thought it would be fine to show the cucumber and the gay couple at the end. Sheesh!! It doesn't seem like Trump likes anyone so far out of this season. Me neither!
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