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(Vanity) In the minority view of Clapton

Posted on 11/14/2004 5:49:54 PM PST by ConYoungBlack

Clapton is OK, his Cream stuff was OK. SRV, Hendrix, Buddy Guy, etc. etc. Those are virtuoso's of the guitar. Clapton is very sterile in his playing. He is over rated.

And don't get me wrong, I like Clapton and love his Cream stuff, but he isn't the virtuoso that many clam. Hardly innovative at all, just a run of the mill blues player. He became a commodity in the sixties because he was a white American man playing delta blues and hard blues rock. So what? he hasn't done a thing since Cream and Derek and the Dominoes.

Sue me


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To: ConYoungBlack

John Lee Hooker... DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LOL! Me type too fast. Elmore James on the mind.


21 posted on 11/14/2004 6:23:21 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

So lemme get this straight. Because I haven't recorded on Erics level, then I also forfieght the means to objectively decipher the difference between him and other guitarists.

Yeah, that makes alot of sense.

By the way - you'd be surprised at who I've played with and for.


22 posted on 11/14/2004 6:24:09 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: lavrenti
You mean John Lee, of course.

And yeah, his blues was the most haunting around. Just bought Serves You Right To Suffer, in fact. ....first time I've seen it available on CD.

Man, I really miss vinyl.

23 posted on 11/14/2004 6:24:33 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: shezza
Eric Clapner

One of the classics.

24 posted on 11/14/2004 6:24:36 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (I think Kerry needs more cowbell.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Magic Sam and Memphis Slim I like a lot, too. That Ann Arbor festival record of MS, is really cool.


25 posted on 11/14/2004 6:26:21 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: ConYoungBlack

Do you consider Jeff Beck to be innovative?


26 posted on 11/14/2004 6:26:48 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: lavrenti

John Lee's first cousin Earl Hooker was a great slide guitarist. ....very underrated.


27 posted on 11/14/2004 6:27:18 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ConYoungBlack

It's pretty simple, really. You said you were a player. You're cutting Clapton very little slack. I gave three examples of superb structure and execution in Clapton's performances. I'm wondering what you have to offer. (And although I didn't mention it, I'm a player, too.)


28 posted on 11/14/2004 6:28:41 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: lavrenti
Magic Sam and Memphis Slim I like a lot, too

Same here. ....unfortunate most of the greats are now gone. Buddy Guy remains. .....and James Cotton......not too many more.

29 posted on 11/14/2004 6:30:00 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ConYoungBlack
As a drummer, Clapton's clean-ness impresses the hell out of me.

It is pretty amazing how clean he can play solos and riffs. Really good.

30 posted on 11/14/2004 6:32:46 PM PST by Benrand
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To: ConYoungBlack

What guitar do you play , brand, electric or accoustic ?


Classical, Rock, Blues , new age ? Kottke, Legg , Segovia, Satriani , Vai ?


31 posted on 11/14/2004 6:33:28 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Take a listen to some of the waltz and fast blues that SRV played like "rude mood", "say what" and "scuttle buttin". Then get back to me.

His chord progressions we're very unique. You can't tell me that any blues player had switched between A minor to E minor stuff like that. Timing, cleanlines, picking, speed, accuracy, amd chord blend were fantastic.

Nothing quite like that texas blues sound.


32 posted on 11/14/2004 6:33:36 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: Mr. Mojo

I know of Earl, all right. I really like slide, and want to eventually learn lap steel.

Yeah, all of them are gone. At least I got to see most of them before they went.


33 posted on 11/14/2004 6:33:44 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: ConYoungBlack

That he learned from those jam sessions with Ramey.

I first saw SRV at 15 during the very brief "Triple Threat" days with LouAnn Barton. Then I found out about Ramey's Sunday jams and hung out there occasionally like the little punk kid I was. Lots of Texas guys there, as well as jazzmen, even some conjunto players.

Jimmie Vaughn also changed a lot, especially after the T-Birds broke up.


34 posted on 11/14/2004 6:36:34 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: Squantos

I play both the Gibsons and Fenders.

Hard blues, funk, blues rock are the genres I like the most.

I play a 68' LP special, a 59' American trat (same set up, or much like SRV's #1), and a Gibson 330 TC (slim, full hollow body)


35 posted on 11/14/2004 6:39:20 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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"Timing, cleanlines, picking, speed, accuracy, amd chord blend were fantastic."

Agreed, but we're talking innovation here.

"You can't tell me that any blues player had switched between A minor to E minor stuff like that."

Actually Jimmy Page did it quite a bit, and I saw him do it live ......twice (once with Zep in '77).

36 posted on 11/14/2004 6:41:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Page?

Are you kidding?


37 posted on 11/14/2004 6:47:18 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: ConYoungBlack

It appears you don't know your ass from your elbow.


38 posted on 11/14/2004 6:48:01 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Senator Goldwater

Beck just doesn't connect with me. He again, like C;apton, is sterile


39 posted on 11/14/2004 6:48:51 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: Mr. Mojo

To each his own, but Steve Morrison is a better Jimmy Page than Jimmy Page is.

Good night. I have to go practice


40 posted on 11/14/2004 6:50:02 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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