The Hobbit Hole XVII - A new road or a secret gate...

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[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

A new road or a secret gate...

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

• Seventh Thread: The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...
• Eighth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VIII - Still round the corner we may meet...
• Ninth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IX - A sudden tree or standing stone
• Tenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole X - That none have seen but we alone.
      Eleventh Thread: Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
• Twelfth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XII - Tree and flower and leaf and grass
• Thirteenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!
• Fourteenth thread: The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky
• Fifteenth thread: The Hobbit Hole XV - Pass them by! Pass them by!
• Sixteenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XVI - Still round the corner there may wait...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

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[ExGeeEye]

I guess my family does...since I do...

The rest of the family is a luddite Mom and expat Sis...

...and Sis doesn't keep a computer in her apartment...

[TalonDJ]

it has a slow moving story but once it gets up to speed it is great. I have the first 18 manga but this is the frist of the anime I have seen.

[JenB]

Luddite family... shudder... well, my Mom's a luddite too but Dad's a geek.

[JenB]

It just bores me. I've tried because people say it's so great. If the art was better I could maybe stick around but it gets old. Maybe in a few years I'll try it again.

Life's too short for establishing relationships with boring, slow-moving anime!

[TalonDJ]

my family seems to keep a nice positive computer-to-human ratio.

[TalonDJ]

BAH! not all art can bu all flowery. I like Rominko Takahashi-sama's art. So far I love everything she has done.

[TalonDJ]

reading the manga is aways the cure for slow stories.

[ExGeeEye]

There are presently four nokid'n computers and one PDA in this apartment with me and my cousin.*

Not to mention all the midget-mind precessors in the assorted AV gear, the microwave etc....

*Only one of the aforementioned belongs to me. The c/r is a series gadget geek.

I may be going to Detroit unexpectedly in the morning.

[JenB]

I liked Ranma ok though it's very repetitive. Can't get into Maison Ikkuko or Inu-yasha and I haven't even tried with Mermaid Saga.

I just think if I could possibly copy the characters, the art's not impressive... the style worked for Ranma because the characters were so dynamic.

Also I have to be different and half the anime club (the boring half) loves IY.

[TalonDJ]

You are spoiled on modern art styles. Rominko is more oldschool in her stlye. Ranma is what like 10 years old now? and Masion was made in the mid-late 80s Do you mean the Ranma manga? it goes down hill after second season. The manga is better. Maison is always one of my favorites. The anime is pretty slow but the manga is a must-read in my book.

[TalonDJ]

If I don't count the 4 of 5 old dismantled laptops I have 3 machines on my desk and 5 monitors.

[JenB]

Sure she's old school. It's just not a school I love. Certainly I'm not going to spend money on it... I have so little anyway. And so little time.

Art style is why even though I don't like Naruto, I can watch the episodes at club. Well, art style and the sheer fun of heckling. I like pretty things. Not saying that the old style can't tell a good story, but... I give a story two volumes of manga, or ten episodes, to grab me. Inu-yasha and Maison failed that test...

[TalonDJ]

By spoiled I mean to compare Ranma and Maison to stuff made recently and computer animated is hardly a fair comparison. if you ignore differences in technology they each have their strong and weak points. For example Fruba is almost all characters but Maison has less refined faces and a much better back ground. Most of the time the Fruba manga ignores the setting altogether in favor of very pretty character art.

[TalonDJ]

I love Maison because it stands on it's own story without crazy action of magical/mystical gimmicks. My favorite anime (series not movie) of all time is Urasai Yatsura. That is about as oldschool as you can get. I love the oldschool stuff, back before almost every story seemed like the one before it.

[JenB]

I'm sure it's a worthwhile story, it's just not one that interests me... I think Furuba made a good choice in concentrating on characters rather than setting, it emphasises that as weird as the situation is, the important part is the people and their relationships.

[TalonDJ]

I don't mean from a story choice standpoint so much as an art style. Most Shojo art is much more people intensive and much less of anything else.

[JenB]

True, I suppose - I'm not a huge shoujo fan. But it is pretty and sometimes that's all I ask for.

[TalonDJ]

Then again I guess that is true of shojo for but art AND story. Those stores are more about the peoples reactions to stuff and less about the actions themselves... gee, go figure, the difference between guys and girls

[JenB]

Oy, don't categorize girls so easily... but yeah, "people oriented" versus "action oriented" is pretty much how I define the two categories.

Not that that's a hard and fast rule...

[JenB]

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