The Hobbit Hole XVII - A new road or a secret gate...

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[RosieCotton]

I know how to relearn! ;-) Books are wonderful things...

[SuziQ]

Is she breastfeeding? I wonder what beer would do to milk.

I read a book about breastfeeding in which a doctor was quoted as saying that "Booze and snooze" were the two things most conducive to successful nursing. ;o)

The German beers are supposed to be heavy in B vitamins which are good for you, but the idea of a beer or a glass of wine from time to time is mostly to relax you, and that's the best thing for nursing mothers.

[RosieCotton]

Very nice! I'm so glad he's pleased!

Italy, huh? That's not a bad assignment...Vicenza is in northern Italy as I recall. Pretty area, what little I saw of it!

The short time I was stationed there (temporary duty) I was on the heel of the boot, so I mostly only saw Northern Italy in passing.

[SuziQ]

I"m so glad the Chaplain likes the knife! It seems to have raised his 'coolness factor' among his men. That's nice. ;o) Neato also about the family moving to Italy!! What a wonderful educational and cultural opportunity for them!

[TalonDJ]

I think I read some place that stressed out breastfeeding mothers cause cranky and nervous babies. All those stress related hormones and chemicals go in the milk just like the beer. From what I recall the effects of a highly stressed mom are worse for the kid than whatever tiny bit of beer makes it into them.

[SuziQ]

Usually what happens with an overstressed Mom is that she just stops making milk! The baby gets less milk when nursing, and THAT makes for a cranky baby. The absolute BEST thing is enough rest. Nap when the baby naps, if at all possible, is the best advice. That's fine with the first one, but each subsequent bambino makes that suggestion harder to follow without some help around the house.

[JenB]

Mmm, books...

[Lil'freeper]

The relationship between the mother's biochemistry and the formative stages of the baby is one of the most overlooked aspect of pregnancy and child rearing. Stress gets transmitted as does every ounce of good or bad nutrition the mom eats.

I work with a gal whose 2nd child is about 18 mos now and they're having a terrible time with their oldest who is 5. The 5 year old has terrible allergies, had terrible excema as an infant, his teeth are malformed and has 12 fillings already. Behavior problems are showing up at school and I suspect learning problems will follow. I blame it all on the mother and her diet. I watched her during that 2nd pregnancy- it was a "cheetos and pepsi" diet with the occasional prenatal vitamin on top. She ate crap while pregnant, fed her infant crap, and now her 5 yr old will only eat crap (chicken fingers and french fries). And she'll bore you to tears with stories about all her kids' health problems and how the doctors just don't know what's wrong.

Sometimes I feel totally insane: Why am I the only person who sees this connection??*

*I know I'm not, but.... ;)

[2Jedismom]

I don't think a bit of wine or beer will hurt even a newborn...my only concern would be if a parent sleeps with their infant like I did. Then, under no circumstances should they even drink a little! I would think even a little would be enough to inhibit that natural instinct a sleeping mother has, an awareness of that infant that even sleep doesn't turn off, if you know what I mean. An exhausted or impaired mother should never sleep with their infant. And by impaired, I mean even taking a cold preparation that might make you sleepy.

I was careful to never sleep with my jedis when I was exhausted and I never took any medications while breastfeeding. Even while "asleep" I was constanly aware of their presence, and it remains even to this day, although not as strong.

Nightime nursing while asleep was the absolute best for both of us...once I figured that out, Matthew slept and nursed on and off all night, and Joshua slept throughout the night from the very first. We both woke up rested and content in the morning and ready for fun.

[Lil'freeper]

Oh, and for the record, this is the same gal who *rejected* my gift of fudge.

[Lil'freeper]

Speaking of milk.... I *finally* found a source of raw milk that does mail order. They ship it frozen! Am going to get some right after Christmas.

[2Jedismom]

I'll say!

What about cream? Can you freeze cream? I don't drink it anymore, but Steve still drinks "creamy water" instead of milk (1 pint heavy cream, 3 pints ice water). We're buying the store-bought kind and I don't like it...but we can't run to Claremore...it's a long way off!

[RosieCotton]

What kinda person rejects homemade fudge?

I mean...I ask you!

You can send me fudge anytime...:-)

[HairOfTheDog]

ecurbh.... I love you honey.... ~wink~

[ecurbh]

~smooch~

'Twas one year ago today...

[RosieCotton]

Awww...happy engagement anniversary!

[JenB]

Sheesh, people have too many anniversaries these days! Don't you agree, Rosie? How are the poor guys supposed to keep track of all these different dates? First-date-date, engagement-date, wedding-date...

Just kidding. Congrats, guys.

[RosieCotton]

Heh...I wouldn't expect it to be remembered years from now.

But first time around...why not?

[JenB]

You only have to do something once for it to become a tradition...

[HairOfTheDog]

ecurbh is the one who remembers all these details and dates and things... My mind is really better for analyzing trends.... ;~D