One Thing I Don’t Like about the Way RatherGate is Rolling Out

beebuster2000 | Sep 10, 2004 | beebuster2000

[beebuster2000]

How is it going to get resolved? Could go against us, or just degenerate into he said-she said. By which time a week of talking about Bush National Guard will have gone by, with some damage, in my view. Meanwhile Lurch continues to fester. Here’s praying the polls hold up for another couple weeks till RatherGate is behind us.

[Political Junkie Too]

But they're not talking about the subject of the memos, only whether they are forgeries or not. And all the while, they are also not talking about what Kerry wants: focusing on health care and jobs.

For Kerry, it's another lost week.

-PJ

[Servant of the 9]

The longer it takes the better.
Kerry is down in the polls.
He needs a good clean 2 weeks and enormous luck to try to recover.
Every week there is a hurricane or a muddled story like this is another week lost to his campaign.

So9

[Warlord]

At the very least, "Rathergate" has smoked a coordinated attack by Viacom, the DNC and the Kerry camp. This weekend was to be about the charges. Now, its the Dems and Viacom that on the defensive.

[vbmoneyspender]

The only way this hurts us is if Kerry is able to convince the electorage that forgery is a skill much in demand when one occupies the White House and Kerry's forgery team will be much more technically proficient than the amateur hour team headed by Dan Rather.</p>

[vbmoneyspender]

electorage = electorate

[beebuster2000]

hope youre right

[Mark]

I'd like an RNC ad with sound bytes from Rather, HARKIN, Algore, and then some experts showing the forgeries.

[truth_seeker]

Presuming the memos were a Kerry campaign tactic, to discredit Bush.

It didn't work. Within hours, the internet research turned the discussion, to fraudulent documents, which also equates to campaign "dirty tricks" by Kerry.

Best case for Kerry is a wash. Unlikely it harmed Bush.

[js1138]

Only if the universal opinion of document experts is ignored. I guarantee that no professional document analyst will allow himself to be interviewed supporting CBS. Not no. Not ever. The best CBS can hope for is to get someone who will say it's inconclusive.

[DocRock]

This offensive has just begun against the liberal media. The name of the "handwriting" expert used by Dan Rather has been released.

The interesting background of this "expert" is just now being investigated by the fine folks here at FR. Here is the LINK to the thread.

This guy also verified Vince Foster's suicide note among other notorious figures. So...

If he authenticated the Vince Foster suicide note, this photo of Foster with the gun in his hand was probably enough to convince him the note was real. Nothing like a "smoking gun". Only Vince was LEFT handed.

In other words, don't be worried, this story has legs and will not have any detrimental effects on the Bush campaign. To the contrary, it will be a boost.

[Boundless]

> How is it going to get resolved?

How are the SBVFT issues getting resolved?

Kerry won't even address the obvious glaring question
of why he has three Silver Star citations for the
same award, one apparently authored by an ex SecNAV
who entirely disclaims it.

The legacy media Pravda Press may stonewall on this all
the way. It's not working on the Swift issue, and it
won't work on this one.

It's up to the new media to carry the ball, and for
every voter to educate themselves and have facts
ready for water-cooler discussions, and write to
editors

[IAM4UK]

Rather's defense noted other documents from Lt Bush's record that also had superscripts or proportional fonts. Anyone know which documents these were? I'm curious if they are ones that would have been made on a typewriter (like Killian's memo), or would have been submitted for typesetting for some reason.

[Tempest]

This sounds like an approach I read on DUmpster last night. I know you guys don't want us to dig for the truth right???

[jocon307]

"Rather's defense noted other documents from Lt Bush's record that also had superscripts or proportional fonts."

Well, I'm just speculating, but if those were documents released due to some recent request, rather than "discovered!" isn't it possible that they might be records transcribed onto computers in the intervening years?

How the heck long do we keep all this stuff, and how much does it cost the American people to store it?

[Tempest]

The superscripts in question are vastly different than superscripts that can be found in original uncontested documents provided by the ANG. The superscripts I've seen from the ANG are in different locations and are understruck unlike the ones in the forgeries.

I haven't seen anything official with proportional fonts.

[Tempest]

I notice you just signed up today. . .

Do you think Killian would have "personal memos" submitted for typesetting?

[flashbunny]

neither had both.

And no document ever produced in 1973 would EVER match up exactly to an indentically typed word document in 2004. EVER. The spacing is like fingerprint. They do not match. They can not match.

[bad company]

I saw them before and they were obviously different. On the real documents the "th" is raised but only that their tops were even with the numbers they were with. The fakes however the "th" obviously was raised so that their tops were elevated above the numbers they were with. danny boy made the horrible mistake of showing both of them on tv side by side. I'm going to bet that this just sets off a new firestorm.