The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky

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[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...
• Seventh Thread: The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...
• Eighth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VIII - Still round the corner we may meet...
• Ninth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IX - A sudden tree or standing stone
• Tenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole X - That none have seen but we alone.
      Eleventh Thread: Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
• Twelfth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XII - Tree and flower and leaf and grass
• Thirteenth Thread: The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

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[Sam Cree]

Trying to think who my favorite authors are.

JRRT probably comes first.
Others I like are Mark Helprin, Hemingway, who else, I wonder..Vernor Vinge is good, Martin Cruz Smith can be very good at times, but not always...Patrick O'Brian was fun..hmm...not that many I really admire, even though I love reading...gotta be lots more though, where is my brain tonight? Oh yeah, Rex Stout was wonderful with Nero Wolf, though I don't suppose that qualifies as literature...

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Sometimes I'm surprised by how little reading I actually do.

[Sam Cree]

You've read a lot of books, though, it seems, judging from past conversation.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

I used to read quite a lot, but over the years my focus has narrowed down to just a few favorite authors, or books I've read before.

It's a shame really, but I feel like I just don't have the time or money to invest in books that I may not like...

[Sam Cree]

The older I get, the pickier I get about what I think is any good. Most of it isn't, I think. I keep reading, though, because I love to so much.

Yeah, I read stuff over again that was good.

[JenB]

Mmm, well, I'm not sure it's the best way to solve this problem, but I'm creating an array of nine arrays, each with four elements (but sometimes only two are used). I want to be able to type "array[0] = {1,2,3,4};" but apparently I can't.

And more importantly, I can't seem to get ANY java program compile, including a "Hello World" that I downloaded from the official Java site. And I've done what they say to do and it doesn't work.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

When I was in Washington for WeddingMoot I picked up a copy of I, Robot by Isaac Asimov, because I wanted to read it again before seeing the movie that was based on it. I hadn't read it about 25 years. But it started me reading some classic SF that I either haven't read or didn't remember reading. Have enjoyed it!

[Rose in RoseBear]

What happens when you try to compile?

[JenB]

Vernor Vinge is good.

Ever read anything by Connie Willis?

[JenB]

I get this message: "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: main" in the program, and a popup window that says "Could not find the main class. Program will exit".

Now, supposedly, messing with my PATH variable will fix this, only it didn't.

[Sam Cree]

I read Doomsday Book, which was exceptionally good. Interesting that it was told from the female point of view. It made you feel like you were really there in the 1300's, English village life. A very sad book, but also inspiring.

Liked the lightweight To Say Nothing of the Dog as well.

[Sam Cree]

Never read any Azimov, do you recommend him, and does it stand up to time?

Haven't read any Lazurus Long either, perhaps I would enjoy one.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Yes, I recommend Asimov's Robot books, or the Foundation Trilogy. It's old SF, but classic.

I just finished reading the Rober Heinlein story collection, "The Past Through Tomorrow", which includes all of his "future history" short stories. Lazarus Long appears in that one, in the story "Methuselah's Children". That story is also published as a stand-alone novel.

Have you read any Ray Bradbury? I recommend most any of his short story collections.

[JenB]

Good, then I don't have to make you go read Doomsday Book.

[Sam Cree]

I saw a Bradbury TV special with some astronauts getting sloppy drunk to celebrate arriving on Mars. I think Rock Hudson was in the thing, wasn't so great, as I recall.

I read a Bradbury thing in 9th grade too, that would be 1962, can't remember it so well, but I think it was over my head.

[Sam Cree]

"Good, then I don't have to make you go read Doomsday Book."

Truth is, I read because of your recommendation. A couple years ago, at least. Thanks :-)

[300winmag]

He took said 45 and shot a hole throught the tailgate from the inside out, and commented, "There, now it's got some character!".

I've seen a lot of cars in Detroit with "character". Only the bullet holes are from the outside going in.

And those magnetic "bullet hole" decals are obviously fake. Real bullet holes pop off MUCH more paint around the hole. They develop more "character" when the bare steel rusts.

[JenB]

Oh, I've been going on about it that long? Hehe...

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Yes, that was The Martian Chronicles. The book was much better than the TV miniseries. Not a novel really, it was a collection of short stories chained together with the central theme of the exploration and settlement of Mars. Some of the stories are quite touching, some are a little horrifying...

In fact, a lot of Bradbury's work shades over into subtle horror. His short story collection The Illustrated Man is a good example of this. Anyway, those two are the two I'd recommend for good examples of Bradbury's writing.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Whoa, look out...