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The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky
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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: JenB
How many movies are really, seriesly deep?

I think that depends on one's perspective.

'Course, I just finished watching The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix: Revolutions back to back...

4,781 posted on 08/22/2004 3:40:39 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; SuziQ; ecurbh
VILLAGE spoiler text:

I thought it was odd. I understand the motives of the elders, I guess.... I have had the same ~urge~ to pack up and head for the hills, and never go to town again. I figured out the time thing... I kept asking ecurbh, why go to town in 1870? There isn't better medicine available. that the trek for medicine only made sense in modern times.

If you are making up a story, as he was, why have the villian be so hapless? And in the end, everything is just gonna be fine and no change will happen. I am not sure I get the point.

End.

4,782 posted on 08/22/2004 3:42:50 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Um, I'd have to watch those again to say for sure, but they seemed to be about as deep as a kiddie pool, to me. The original? Sure. But the sequels just didn't make me think.


4,783 posted on 08/22/2004 3:43:25 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: JenB
You should probably watch them again.
4,784 posted on 08/22/2004 3:45:46 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: JenB

Well, as a director, Shyamalan has had a knack for really intriguing story lines. And this one is also really intriguing. He had a psychological study or spiritual point in his others, that I am not sure I get here yet.


4,785 posted on 08/22/2004 3:46:01 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; SuziQ
Spoiler text:

M. Night's movies seem to always be about "something". If I had to pick, I'd say The Village was about fear: how you can try to run away from it, but eventually it has to be faced. All the other stuff about the village, the creatures, etc., was just window dressing to explore that theme, IMHO.

End spoiler.

4,786 posted on 08/22/2004 3:53:05 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Maybe some year. The "orgy" scene in Matrix Reloaded really kinda turned me off...

Ok, I see the symbolism in the ending of the whole thing, but I thought it went from being a really cool story/symbolism in the first movie, to a very... I don't know... predictable sort of symbolism, if that makes any sense.


4,787 posted on 08/22/2004 4:02:58 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: JenB
Not everyone is going to like the same things, naturally.

When I finished watching "Revolutions" earlier, my first reaction was "where's the next one?", because I still see a lot of story potential there.

4,788 posted on 08/22/2004 4:14:17 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; JenB

I still haven't seen the third Matrix movie.

I loved the first...the second one left me cold. I'm half afraid to see the last.


4,789 posted on 08/22/2004 4:21:12 PM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: JenB

*sigh*

Already three quarters of the way through TSNOTD. I hate it when good books go by fast.

The only thing is...I guessed one of the major twists pretty early (the identity of Mr. C.), and though I haven't been proven absolutely right, I think it's headed in that direction. I'm interested in seeing how it's gonna GET there, but also mildly upset that I'm not more clueless.


4,790 posted on 08/22/2004 4:23:33 PM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
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But in my mind, they didn't face the fear. Before she left, she was told all the fear was a fake, a fraud. So she left there unfearing of the things in the woods. Of course, then one came along anyway, we don't really know if she ended up knowing who was in the costume. And the rest of the Village goes on like nothing happened.

I thought she got along a little too well to be blind.

End spoiler.

4,791 posted on 08/22/2004 4:23:37 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Spoiler text:

I also thought The Village sort of spoke about isolationism... how you can try to hide from evil and cloister yourself from it, but it will eventually find you. But then this theme was diluted by having the "evil" turn out to be a mentally handicapped person in a crime of passion.

There were some intriguing ideas presented here, but the execution was rather lacking, IMHO.

End.

4,792 posted on 08/22/2004 4:27:41 PM PDT by ecurbh ("Hippies. They wanna save the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad." ~Eric Cartman)
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To: msdrby
cool for your brother! After only a year, huh?

Yeah, I'm pretty proud of him :) He came out to visit me a few months into it and had me review a tape of his sparring, and we worked on some stuff. After that he went back and the next time he sparred he was beating the Black Belts in his school, and they were like, what'd you do? :)

Where do they put orange at elf-boy's school? Different schools do it differently. Mine was a TKD school (elf-boy's Karate, right?) and didn't have orange. Ours went:

White

Yellow

Green

Blue

Purple

Brown

Red

Black

My brother's school has a different system where they get stripes on each belt before getting the next one; and they also have a couple extra colors. I think he has orange in his system.

4,793 posted on 08/22/2004 4:27:48 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
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I have no idea what they're talking about, do you?

4,794 posted on 08/22/2004 4:30:26 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Spoiler text:

Nope, me, neither!

4,795 posted on 08/22/2004 4:31:24 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
The Village
4,796 posted on 08/22/2004 4:34:57 PM PDT by ecurbh ("Hippies. They wanna save the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad." ~Eric Cartman)
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To: RosieCotton

Yeah, it's not... that inobvious, at least to lovers of mystery like you and me. But who do you think it is?

I like what I think the "moral of the story" is. We'll have to compare notes when you're done and see.

Ok, Willis' "Passage" is good, too, though you might get teary at a couple spots. I do.


4,797 posted on 08/22/2004 4:35:23 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: Fedora; ecurbh
That which should not be discussed ;~D
4,798 posted on 08/22/2004 4:36:07 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Is that anything like He Who Must Not Be Named?
4,799 posted on 08/22/2004 4:38:23 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: JenB
Who? ;~D
4,800 posted on 08/22/2004 4:39:36 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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