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The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky
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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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2,361 posted on 08/13/2004 9:17:12 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I have to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: Fedora

Oh, come on, there is no way he could have the ability to leap entire buildings just because he's from another planet. First off, since he's pretty human in shape, that restricts just how heavy his world could have been - 2 gs would be pushing it for local gravity....


2,362 posted on 08/13/2004 9:18:01 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Fedora

Woot! That's so cool!

Fedora... you haven't caught up on the backlog, have you?


2,363 posted on 08/13/2004 9:18:38 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

250,002 Posts!


2,364 posted on 08/13/2004 9:18:59 PM PDT by Samwise (Democrats scream because they can't stand the truth.)
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To: JenB
It could be telekinesis ...
2,365 posted on 08/13/2004 9:19:33 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... ah, the suspension of disbelief ...])
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To: JenB; Fedora
Have you ever read "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex", by Larry Niven?
2,366 posted on 08/13/2004 9:20:34 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I have to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: JenB; Bear_in_RoseBear; Rose in RoseBear
Well, it started off as two Earths, and then it kinda multiplied and got outta control. . . :) Which is why they decided to kill some folks off to fix things. Yeah, it seems like the most natural thing would be to have one Earth or (applying the "many universes" interpretation of quantum mechanics) an infinite number. I could think of ways to justify having two, though. I think DC's original idea was that there was another Earth rotating in synch with ours but on the other side of the Sun so we could never see it, if I remember right. Also there are some strips with universe/anti-universe premises.

As for evil Supermans, there's also Bizarro Superman, from the planet Htrae :)

2,367 posted on 08/13/2004 9:20:50 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Rose in RoseBear

He even *looks* evil in that picture! :)


2,368 posted on 08/13/2004 9:21:29 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Hehe, yes, I have. Probably why I can't take superheroes seriously.


2,369 posted on 08/13/2004 9:23:41 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Fedora
Did you keep up with the attempts to "fix" the Post-Crisis DC Universe? The limited series "Zero Hour" being the last one.

I don't know if you know, but DC has re-introduced the infinite parallel Earths idea with the concept of Hypertime, introduced by Mark Waid IIRC.

2,370 posted on 08/13/2004 9:24:21 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I have to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: JenB

What if people on Krypton are also denser, hence having more dense muscle and bone tissue?

I think the original inspiration for Superman's leaping ability was also comparison with the leg strength of insects, one of the themes in the John Carter series. A human-sized insect could leap over a building. I'm pretty sure one of the earliest Superman stories draws that analogy.


2,371 posted on 08/13/2004 9:25:38 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: JenB

"Fedora... you haven't caught up on the backlog, have you?"

Not my present self, but my future Earth-2 self has, using my Flash ability to speedread :)


2,372 posted on 08/13/2004 9:26:39 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I've heard of that but not read it. How is it?


2,373 posted on 08/13/2004 9:27:23 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: JenB

"Hehe, yes, I have. Probably why I can't take superheroes seriously."

But you don't have a problem with Kenshin leaping 50 feet into the air and taking 5 seconds to land--and he's not even from Krypton! :)


2,374 posted on 08/13/2004 9:29:11 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I haven't kept up with that, but it sounds like it's asking for trouble. . .I mean, they already had to fix it once! Although I'll confess one of my favorite series was "All-Star Comics" featuring the Golden Age Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, etc. And of course "What If?" was very cool. I like "alternate universe" stories as long as they're kept distinct from the regular timeline, I guess.


2,375 posted on 08/13/2004 9:32:26 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

But he's prettier than Superman! And it's Martial Arts, everyone knows Martial Arts do not conform to the laws of physics.


2,376 posted on 08/13/2004 9:33:35 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Fedora
I'm pretty sure one of the earliest Superman stories draws that analogy.

Yes, in fact it goes back to the 1-page intro to the very first Superman story in Action Comics #1. The last panel has a "scientific explanation" for how Superman does what he does, and refers to ants lifting weights many times their body weight, and the jumping ability of grasshoppers.

2,377 posted on 08/13/2004 9:40:28 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I have to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: JenB

See, as a martial artist, that's a place where a lot of anime and martial arts movies lose me (and this was one of Bruce Lee's complaints about martial arts movies, too, which he tried to change but it's been reversed over the past decade). In a real fight you *never* want to be jumping around like that--it leaves you way too vulnerable. But it looks more theatrical to have people jumping around defying gravity, so most filmmakers do that. I think in any action comic or film, there's always a tension between what's realistic and what looks visually cinematic or feels aesthetically pleasing. Superman isn't realistic, but it would be cool if someone could do what he can do, so it's fun to read anyway.


2,378 posted on 08/13/2004 9:40:55 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
I've heard of that but not read it. How is it?

Read it here!

2,379 posted on 08/13/2004 9:42:04 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I have to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: Fedora

I never watch movies for real fights. That wouldn't be fun. Movies aren't realistic... ever notice how, in movies, at night you can see just as well as during the day, only everything's blue?


2,380 posted on 08/13/2004 9:44:59 PM PDT by JenB
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