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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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I liked it... I thought it was a good take on the "what if heroes ruled the world" story. The Squadron's Earth is all messed up, so the Squadron decides to take over for the benefit of mankind. Nighthawk doesn't like their methods, though, and defects to form a group to oppose the Squadron. Ends with a big fight, several heroes on both sides die, etc., etc.
A tip of the hat to you, Miss Rose. Good find.
Cool. Let me know when it's readable.
I had an idea for a story today inspired by discussing "Dune". I got a sudden image of a world like Arrakis but with a very different type of ecosystem--have a specific type of ecosystem in mind which I'll describe another time after I develop it a bit. I could see the world very clearly in my mind. I think it's been in the back of my mind a long time and I just needed the right stimulus to trigger it. It will be a fun story to write. Waiting for the characters and plot to come to me now--actually the backstory is starting to come as I type this. Hmmm. . .
Sounds interesting--I mean you'd think if there were suprheroes something like that would happen. I was surprised to see Nighthawk on the team, since his name was given as Kyle Richmond (for some reason he decided to announce his identity and recount his origin story to Captain America in the middle of their fight, LOL!) and I realized he's the same Nighthawk from the Defenders. Do you know how he got from his Earth to "regular" Marvel Earth?
BTW Kang the Conqueror was the villain. I always thought his future-history storyline was kind of interesting.
Hmm, well, every "desert planet" is suspected of secretly being Arrakis, you know... I assume that's where George Lucas got Tattoine. I mean, the Imperial planet, whatever, is the same as Trantor from Foundation...
Thanks for finding that! I think I saw an episode of "Malcolm in the Middle" once where they were doing that. The kids were trying to think of the biggest prank they could do, so they rigged a catapult type of apparatus up on the roof and started launching pumpkins and other projectiles for blocks :)
Are these stupid commentators going to talk right over the lyrics while the lady is singing? Someone needs to go up there and smack them.
I always sort of liked Kang, too... they did some silly things with him later, with the Council of Crosstime Kangs. Not that I didn't like that...
I've always assumed Tatooine was partly inspired by Arrakis. However he also took some stuff from another movie by the director of "Seven Samurai", "Hidden Fortress", which has some scenes with a desert setting.
Never thought of the Coruscant/Trantor connection--interesting.
Really? That's interesting. It wouldn't be too hard to make into a series at all. The trilogy is good but I don't like the additional Earthsea books.... "Tombs of Atuan" is a great piece of fiction...
I'm looking some stuff up, and it looks like the Squadron Sinister with its Kyle Richmond was a duplicate created by the Grandmaster from the original Squadrom Supreme of Counter-Earth:
Hyperion is a superhuman being of unknown origin, who lives on the Earth of his alternate dimension, which is sometimes designated as "Other-Earth" or "Earth-S.". . .Hyperion became a founding member of the Squadron Supreme, an organization of costumed champions; most of who possessed superhuman powers. His best friend in the team was Nighthawk, who was actually multi-millionaire Kyle Richmond. Acclaimed as the greatest hero of his world, Hyperion acted as leader of the Squadron. The Grandmaster, an alien from the dimension of "mainstream" Earth, journeyed to the Squadron's dimension and set up a competition between himself and the Squadron's enemy, the Scarlet Centurion. The Grandmaster used the Squadron members as pawns in a tournament to compete against the Institute of Evil, a team of the Squadron's foes organized by the Centurion. Winning the contest, the Grandmaster resolved to create his own Squadron the next time he needed superhuman pawns. Hence, he created a duplicate Hyperion from pseudo organic matter and used him in battle against the Avengers, a team of costumed champions based on "mainstream" Earth. This Hyperion became a criminal, usually acting as a member of the team called the Squadron Sinister. A number of the Avengers later traveled to the Earth of the Squadron Supreme and aided the Squadron against a menace called the Brain-Child.
Still not sure if Earth-S Nighthawk is the same as Defenders Nighthawk, though. Wish I still had my back issues of Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, LOL! Hmm--from this it sounds like Defenders Nighthawk is native to regular Marvel Earth, though it's not explicit:
The Defenders tended to meet at Doctor Strange's home in New York City, but later met at the Richmond Riding Academy on Long Island, an establishment owned by Kyle Richmond, alias the Defender Nighthawk.
That's another one I still have to read. I'll have to read it before that SciFi Channel adaptation comes out. Did you see their adaptations of the Dune series? They were a lot better than the screen movie adaptation IMO.
So what's the basic premise of the Earthsea series?
I think my issues of Defenders are up in Michigan, so no way for me to check it out.
Kyle Richmond was the son of Arthur end Penelope Richmond, a wealthy industrialist and his wife. [SNIP]
Shaken by the tragic consequences of his irresponsibility, Richmond was glad when he was drafted into the army, and hoped that he would die in action. However, during his physical examination, a heart murmur was detected and he was rejected from service. 0n the same day, his father died in an airplane crash and Kyle found himself in charge of Richrnond Enterprises. Wisely believing himself to be incapable of handling the business, Richmond turned over the management of the firm to the company chairman of the board. J.C. Pennyworth. He then divided his time between the life of leisure of the idle rich and a search for a chemical cure for his heart ailment. Richmond soon discovered a mysterious book which contained alchemical formulae, among with was a formula to increase physical strength. Concocting the formula in a makeshift laboratory in his mansion, Richmond drank it, and learned that it did confer upon him heightened strength, but only at night. Richmond was then contacted by the Grandmaster, the cosmic gamesman, who had arranged for him to find the book. The Grandmaster wished to use superhuman pawns against his opponent, the time-travelling villain Kang. Hence, the Grandmaster made Richmond and two other human beings into counterparts of members of the Squadron Supreme, a team of homes of an alternate Earth. The Grandmaster also transformed nonliving matter into a duplicate of Squadron Supreme member Hyperion. Richmond took the name of Nighthawk, the costumed identity of the Kyle Richmond of this alternate Earth. The Grandmaster's new team was known as the Squadron Sinister.
As Nighthawk, the Squadron Sinister's Richmond was pitted against the hero Captain America in a battle over the Statue of Liberty. Nighthawk lost, but escaped imprisonment when Captain America was teleported away for yet another contest. Nighthawk decided to use his powers for "kicks" and tried to make a quick reputation for himself by battling the hero Daredevil. When this ploy failed, Richmond retired his Nighthawk identity for awhile. Some time later, Richmond was unwillingly reunited with the Squadron when Hyperion volunteered the group to assist the alien Nebulon in his plan to melt Earth's icecaps. Acting responsibly for the first time in his life, Richmond fled to try to warn the hero team Avengers of what was happening. Unable to reach them, he instead contacted the Defenders. Assisting the Defenders, Nighthawk was struck by radiation from Nebulon's 'laser cannon" and was on the brink of death. The sorcerer Doctor Stephen Strange performed an elaborate spell to mystically resuscitate Richmond's life force by drawing upon the collective life force of the Defenders. When Nighthawk revived, he asked to join the Defenders, but was told the group was not an official team. Nevertheless, he began to associate with members of the loose-knit group on a regular basis. Richmond reveled in the sense of life and purpose that his affiliation with the Defenders afforded him, and converted his private riding academy into their acting headquarters. He later used his financial resources to develop for himself powered jetpack and apparatus to enable him to fly. With the increasingly long absences of Doctor Strange, Nighthawk became de facto leader of the group.
BTW this is from a site on a Marvel Super-Heroes RPG--ever play that? I played the original version. Looks like this might be an updated one.
I thought having Sting in the movie would wreck it, but that turned out to be one of the less worse things about the movie! Heh--one time I had some friends in town for a Kung Fu seminar and between sessions we were watching TV and the movie version of "Dune" came on, and we ended up MSTYfying it :) It was just awful.
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