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The Hobbit Hole XII - Tree and flower and leaf and grass
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Posted on 06/26/2004 8:07:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Tree and flower and leaf and grass

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: RosieCotton
The wonderful, wonderful bakery just about next door to our hotel didn't hurt, either

Yep, there was one next to our hotel too (when I went in the early 80s and had no preconceived notions of the French.) I went in, got an espresso and asked for some milk. The lady "didn't undertand" so I tried in spanish (leche) because the word escaped me for french (lait). Still, she didn't understand. So I gave up.

Funny though, she knew how to call me a "B*tch" in English, as I walked off...to the amusement of everyone in the bakery.

I didn't find one single courteous person in the entire country the entire time were were there. Yes, there are some lovely arts and buildings there...it's just too bad the people are so insufferably rude.

Personally, as an afterthought, I would probably enjoy my trip to Paris much more if I went now, because my expectactions of the French are so low that any deviation would delight me. Also, I might not have my mom along with me and could be just as rude back. That was all that stopped me before...my mom and dad were sitting in the cafe and I didn't want to make a scene. Now, even with them there, I'd probably make a scene.

561 posted on 06/29/2004 7:38:46 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: JenB
Does that mena I should just give up?

Mena--seriesly? :)

562 posted on 06/29/2004 7:41:56 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: HairOfTheDog

C'ya, Hair!


563 posted on 06/29/2004 7:42:30 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: 2Jedismom
I didn't find one single courteous person in the entire country the entire time were were there. Yes, there are some lovely arts and buildings there...it's just too bad the people are so insufferably rude.

I have one French conservative theologian friend who at least is a good person and attempts to be polite. But even in his case, he habitually says things which in English culture are considered extremely rude, not in a deliberate attempt to be rude but as a matter of normal conversation. He doesn't seem to know how to express differences of opinion without being offensive, at least not in English, and sometimes it seems like arguing is his normal mode of making conversation, like that's how people normally talk to each other in France. He also tends to take English words he doesn't understand, or has only heard one definition of, substitute his own definition for the word in a way that completely skewers what you said, and then start an argument based on his definition, leaving you wondering what on earth you said that he's responding to. It's extremely frustrating to deal with.

564 posted on 06/29/2004 7:47:55 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora

Gah, don't bug me over typos! Everyone has them!

Here's something some of us fantasy-fan types may like: http://www.bondwine.com/tourguide/index.html - it makes more sense if you'd read "The Tough Guide to Fantasyland", but it's still funny.


565 posted on 06/29/2004 7:48:51 AM PDT by JenB
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To: 2Jedismom
Ugh...sorry your had a bad experience!

Like I said, I guess we were lucky...no one was rude to us.

And in the other places I've been in France (southern, near the Pyrenees mountains), people were downright friendly! I wouldn't mind LIVING in that area for a time. It was gorgeous there, and the food was incredible.
566 posted on 06/29/2004 7:51:42 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("The soul who is in love with God is a gentle, humble and patient soul." - St. John of the Cross)
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To: Fedora

I think that's what happened out in the country...we stopped to eat at a little restaurant and ordered the meat and then tried to order the side dishes to go with. Apparently you only order the meat and you get whatever side dishes come with that particular meat.

Well, the waitress just BELLOWED at us!! Waving her arms around bellowing like a bull, then stalked off.

We sat rather astounded for a few minutes, trying to figure out what to do, I mean, should we leave? when here she comes with the meat we ordered and all the proper side dishes.

We kinda laughed at that, but gee, what a bunch of drama!


567 posted on 06/29/2004 7:52:42 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: RosieCotton

I hear that outside Paris, the French are kinda nice...


568 posted on 06/29/2004 7:54:12 AM PDT by JenB (All wishes are not idle, nor in vain - J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: JenB

Where we were was practially Spain...maybe that makes a difference!


569 posted on 06/29/2004 7:54:57 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("The soul who is in love with God is a gentle, humble and patient soul." - St. John of the Cross)
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To: RosieCotton

What about your experience in Germany? The people in the big cities were just as rude as most big city people, but the country towns were just delightful!!! I really loved the little zimmers, you know?

We'd been traveling all day and couldn't find any plain bottled water, only mineral water (yuck). We got to our zimmer and I went up to the owner and said "Bitte, Coca Cola??" and she was so SWEET! Bustled around like Bilbo getting us some coke!! Ice cold coke...it was sweet!


570 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:38 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: RosieCotton

The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain...


571 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:57 AM PDT by JenB (All wishes are not idle, nor in vain - J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: JenB
Gah, don't bug me over typos! Everyone has them!

Yeah, but some are potential FR classics--that was a good one :)

Here's something some of us fantasy-fan types may like: http://www.bondwine.com/tourguide/index.html - it makes more sense if you'd read "The Tough Guide to Fantasyland", but it's still funny.

I'm looking through it now :) This would've been vey handy to have when I was Dungeon Master--I started with the "Weather" link and I like the suggestion, "If they are just cocky, a good course of fog, snow, or desert heat will remind them that this is Fantasyland and they are not in charge.". . .Also kinda reminds me of the comic-book equivalent, The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.

Got tickets to see Spiderman 2 tomorrow. . . :)

So do you have actual appointments to see apartments or are you basically dropping in spontaneously on potential landlords? :)

572 posted on 06/29/2004 7:59:00 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora

Not really that much space. They have to share the 2.5 gallon so they have enough room for a small plant in each section, etc.

It is much better and bigger than the space they'd have in a Betta Hex though. :-)


573 posted on 06/29/2004 8:00:09 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: My heart remains in Washington....)
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To: JenB; RosieCotton

I've never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music...


574 posted on 06/29/2004 8:00:52 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Thank you Mr. Vice President. You speak for ALL of us.)
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To: 2Jedismom
We kinda laughed at that, but gee, what a bunch of drama!

LOL! Maybe tourists make that mistake a lot and it's a pet peeve of hers or something. You'd have to think most US tourists would make that mistake.

575 posted on 06/29/2004 8:02:44 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: 2Jedismom
Germans can be far more blunt or abrupt than Americans typically would be, I think. And to us...that can seem rude. But ya know...I didn't mind that so much as the extremely overfriendly Italians. Those guys scared me! ;-) I mean...we'd be just walking down the street and people would come running up and talk to us. Once I got used to that, it didn't bother me so much, but the first few times my first reaction was to run!

In Germany, people in the cities tend to speak English, so that's a plus. But some of my best experiences were outside the cities...dinky little hole-in-the-wall restaurants where you sat and talked for an hour while your food was prepared from SCRATCH - totally fresh. Usually cheap, too, by most standards. And when we went to the Black Forest area, we stayed at places where basically people had a few rooms for rent, and provided breakfast. Bed and breakfasts, I guess...but usually much lower key than you'd picture those to be. One place was at a farm - there were cows in the lower part, below where our rooms were! It was right by the mountains. I got up at dawn and walked to the top of the hill by the house and watched the sun come up over the Alps, then went back in for a breakfast of fresh rolls and the best honey I've ever had in my life, with good hot coffee and real cream. I get a lump in my throat just thinking of that experience. It was wonderful.

576 posted on 06/29/2004 8:03:20 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("The soul who is in love with God is a gentle, humble and patient soul." - St. John of the Cross)
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To: JenB; RosieCotton

The people that surprised me the most (back in the early 80s) were the British!! Even in London. They were very reserved on the street, but would just do anything to help! You could ask anyone for help or if they even saw you looking confused, they'd offer to help in a very courteous way!

We were surprised by their kindness.


577 posted on 06/29/2004 8:03:40 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: RosieCotton; JenB; All

Be around for a few hours.

A few years ago I worked with a temporary manager who was here from France for a year or so. Most obnoxious manager I ever had. Finally he demanded to know if I wanted out of the job. I said yes, then packed and left. Funny thing is that he was very charming for the first week!


578 posted on 06/29/2004 8:04:41 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Hello! Long time no see!


579 posted on 06/29/2004 8:05:45 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("The soul who is in love with God is a gentle, humble and patient soul." - St. John of the Cross)
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To: RosieCotton
And in the other places I've been in France (southern, near the Pyrenees mountains), people were downright friendly! I wouldn't mind LIVING in that area for a time. It was gorgeous there, and the food was incredible.

The scenes in the Riviera area in the movie To Catch a Thief are beautiful--I bet living there would make someone more relaxed than living in Paris! Maybe it is different in different parts of France.

580 posted on 06/29/2004 8:06:11 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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