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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Another question from e-mail help me out.

but is it you doing the study or Gods will that makes you study? You said that God is in control of good and bad, where does the devil fit into this? He is the king of the earth. Does he do bad and God lets it happen to us? What about sin? Does God make good Christians who are saved and study the Bible sin?


198 posted on 07/09/2004 9:41:49 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
Another e-mail with questions.....

Good questions...but is it you doing the study or Gods will that makes you study?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!God does say to seek his face. I think it is a wicked web of good and evil.

I think it is different for all people some of us get scared into the bible some of us should just know better our human nature stops us and pride of self.

You said that God is in control of good and bad, where does the devil fit into this?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The devil and his demons spend all there time studying us so they can find a weakness to sway or trick us into sin. The protective hedge I believe GOD has around His chosen one's and yields as to our growth in our spiritual walk with HIM.

You said that God is in control of good and bad, where does the devil fit into this?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Remember Job and how GOD controlled the whole deal. That is how I believe it happens with us. We have to have bad things happen in our life so we will make a choice(free will) as who we will follow. GOD always comes through on the other side to our good. Also some of the bad that happens is a test, everyone has different test as we learn GOD'S ways. The great thing about GOD is if you fail the test this time you get to take it again till you pass it.

Does God make good Christians who are saved and study the Bible sin?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GOD doesn't make us sin in anyway Adam and Eve established that for us. We are going to sin plain and simple. GOD wants us to do our very best to lean on him just like the Israelite had to learn dunning the 40 days in the desert....
WE ARE TO PERPARE FOR BATTLE EVEYDAY FOR GOOD AND EVIL
The Armor of God
Ephesians 6

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might.
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,
15 and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE;
16 in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,
19 and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel,

http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=EPH+6&language=english&version=NASB&showfn=on&showxref=on
200 posted on 07/09/2004 10:21:06 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

The Bible is pretty clear that God has nothing to do with sin.




Period.




I realize that there are philosophers who state that the existence of satan is evidence of 'the dark side' of God etc.

I don't buy it.

God said it. I believe it.

I confess, at times, I've wondered just what "my ways are higher than your ways" means and if there isn't some incredible wiggle room in there. And I'm still a bit in one of those times.

But I still come down on the side of GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME; ALL THE TIME GOD IS ALTOGETHER GOOD. Nothing else makes sense.

ALSO, that given enough intelligence, an organism gains increasing free will. At some point, choosing NON-LOVE is an increasing at least possibility.

I believe that THIS BOOT CAMP for teaching how to live with free will in a reality were the major currency is LOVE, GRACE, FORGIVENESS rather than judgment--THAT THIS BOOT CAMP FOR TRAINING RULERS AND REIGNERS WITH CHRIST--LEADERS OF THAT REALITY--this boot camp is crucial.

It seems to me, God is working rather diligently to avoid having rulers and reigner's rebel as satan did. That somehow, there's something priceless about EXPERIENTIALLY WORKING INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR BEING BY THE BLOOD AND THE SPIRIT--WHAT WE ARE LEARNING ABOUT LIVING BY GOD'S WAY OF LOVE VS NON-LOVE; LIFE VS NON-LIFE.

And God has clearly invested ALL POWER on the LOVE SIDE.

I also believe that sin serves as a catalyst triggering options for us to choose over and over and over--LOVE OR NON-LOVE toward one another and even toward our enemies. God prefers to avoid wasting even our sin experiences.

But they are the result of our choices out of our polluted [since Adam] motives and the 'missing the mark of perfection' choices and motives (and the resulting consequences) of all who've gone before us resulting in added pollution of our sin soaked world.

God is committed to working together for good all our choices given that we Love Him etc.

Hope that speaks at least some to your questions.


203 posted on 07/09/2004 11:26:02 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

I believe that we are legally perfect at the point of truly confessing, accepting Christ's Blood etc.

But it is a LIFETIME PROCESS of working that perfection into every cell and fiber of our being, our personality. When we die, I believe that Christ 'finishes' the process rather wholesale rather immediately and PRESENTS US TO THE FATHER BLAMELESS.

Yet, evidently there's still growing and learning in Heaven.


204 posted on 07/09/2004 11:28:03 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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