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To: Rockitz

I'll be interested to see if he's the real deal, or if he's one of these guys who can find evidence of extraterrestrial archetecture in a bowl of soggy corn flakes.

I am really suspicious of anyone who starts on about 'government coverups' and 'attempts to silence him'. I have heard that song before. If you really are blabbing off with secret stuff, governments generally will just grab you, rather than letting you post stuff all over the place and shutting down websites in your wake.


73 posted on 06/02/2004 11:54:36 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Riley

Agreed. If they even THOUGHT he would let the cat out of the bag, he would simply disappear. But for the sake of argument, wouldn't the best way to discredit someone with news so incredible that it simply couldn't be true be to let him spread it?

BTW, I saw a trailer for "Chiclen Little, The Movie" Monday.


80 posted on 06/02/2004 12:16:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Riley

Lets try this again.

I saw a trailer for "Chicken Little, The Movie" Monday.


81 posted on 06/02/2004 12:16:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Riley

Having just read thru this entire thread, from Post 1 to 75, I am quite intrigued.

Like many here, *I* am also a *former* federal employee. Like some of you here, I am into amateur astronomy. Like a small group of you, I am into the area of preparedness and survival.

I just happen to be the founder and author of SurvivalRing, which Rick Donaldson mentioned a couple of times in this thread.

Having been doing research for years, on the areas of government level continuity and survival, with tens of thousands of pages of original government printed documents in my personal possession, and knowing folks in both active and/or retired military and public safety areas, I can say that "chatter" in those realms of information has increased greatly the past 2 months.

These are the things that concern me...

a) movement of naval assets from BOTH U.S. coasts.
b) very large movement of military hardware in all areas of the nation (by rail, air, and truck)
c) fleeting comments of "external" threats to the U.S.
d) mentions of "the draft" again ( needed to possibly supply slave labor in recovery from a "catastrophic" incident, maybe)
e) front page news of "certain strikes" on U.S. soil of terrorist threats ( political conventions, G-8 summit, etc.)...possibly giving cover story for massive asset movements for anyone concerned...
f) ...(your comment here...what have YOU seen that on the surface makes sense, but deep down, could be put in place for a "possible" strike from space?)

My site has been online for close to 7 years now. Most people that know me personally, either thru the site, phone calls, emails, or in person know I am a level headed guy, who doesn't believe every Niburu, X-Planet, Time travel, UFO, Bilderberg, NWO, conspiracy threory, or Remote Viewing story that comes through...NONE of them.

I personally research and verify things I hear from many sources, like most of you on this particular board.

There are too many parts of this story that come STRAIGHT out of science fiction novels...off the top of my head, I can think of the following titles, that Aussie may have read in creating this story, IF his story is fiction...

SHIVA DESCENDING by Gregory Benford

www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/ detail/-/0812516907?v=glance

EARTH by David Brin

www.davidbrin.com/othersfbooks.html

and, of course,

LUCIFERS HAMMER

www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/ detail/-/0449235998?v=glance

BUT, if the chatter around the world, the data Aussie has provided, and the movement of military assets is true, for the reasons *suspected*, WHAT do we do...I mean really?

Just what WOULD any person of real committment do to increase chances of survival IN a real event of this exact nature?

Leave the cities? Stock up food? Have or make a shelter? Buy up all the guns at the local pawn shops?

Or, just hope for the best, with your authentic Titanium Wile E. Coyote umbrella?

Let's assume, just for the moment, that this *EVENT*, this "three strikes, you're out", civilization-destroying thing happens, is inevitable, no way out, we are all screwed...

What will YOU do?

Where will YOU go?

ARE you really right with your maker?

I'm not a doomer, and never intend to be...I see threats as a way to learn, to grow, to change, and to prosper...in all the right ways. And, in getter there, I've studied the worst things that can happen, including thermonuclear war.

Yep, here's the math to prove it...

Giant Flaming Rocks From Space = GFRFS
All Out Thermonuclear War = AOTW
The End Of The World As We Know It = TEOTWAWKI

GFRFS => AOTW == TEOTWAWKI

How about your comments now, on *if* this event occurs, what, in real terms, could or would YOU do to get PAST the event?

Here's YOUR chance...

Richard Fleetwood


85 posted on 06/02/2004 12:43:32 PM PDT by rafleet (Http://www.survivalring.org - "Study Yesterday...Prepare Today...Live Tomorrow.")
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To: Riley; Rytwyng; All

Here's the complete response from the good doctor who, BTW, is a Christian:

Could be - never say never, but I VERY VERY seriously doubt it. There's no way to investigate the evidence. Aussie Bloke has an inside track on super top secret stuff and we're supposed to believe him!!!! Give me a break. Reminds me of the lengths (and depths) to which some "Christians" will go to "prove" a point. Twenty five years or so ago a man wrote a Christian book which I still have somewhere. In it he claimed that NASA had run their computers back in time and proved that Joshua's long day had really occurred. Astrodynamics not withstanding, e-mails are still circulating on this one. The internet has quite a lot on debunking the whole farce.

There is an extensive photographic program to detect "Earth crossing" asteroids. Photos of the sky are taken essentially every night. Then computers compare the points of light with known stars. Anything moving with respect to the stars is either an asteroid or a comet. Once something is detected, repeated measurements allow its trajectory to be "estimated." Predicting a "sure Earth hit" is impossible, it is done probabilistically. Nothing with any significant probability of hitting has been found. On the other hand, you probably have heard that several "smaller" asteroids (100s of m) have passed by the Earth at less-than-moon distances in the last few years.


219 posted on 06/05/2004 8:22:36 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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