To: Rick.Donaldson
Just a note as this thread winds down...
As I thought from the beginning, another bogus journey into how far the fear will spread, before the truth came to light, thru the hard work of a very few, including Rick.
What concerns me, and not just because of my background, but because I've seen it over and over again, throughout the past few years, is the lack of discussion of what each of us *should* do, if such as threat as this thread brought, should come around to be true some day in the future.
Just as Rick is, I've been watching the skies for decades, starting when I was ten, having the ability to give friends and families tours of the sky with binoculars, telescopes, and the naked eye of the constellations, the parade of planets, the meteor showers, the comets, and all those interesting things hidden out there. I've enjoyed the LINEAR and NEAT comets coming around in the same time frame, and from my perspective here is wide open Wyoming, its a beautiful site.
I've built telescopes from scratch, have more than a few astonomy programs, and understand the cyclicle nature of the planets, the solar system the galaxy, and the dance of the stars more then most, in time frames that others never try to fathom.
I do not fear the unknown, and never have...I embrace it. I consider myself a pragmatist..."stuff" happens, with no control from any of us, and one of the things that occurs, with regular, if stilted, freqeuncy, is earth impacts of space debris from around the universe. But, being a pragmatist, also allows me to know that *I* can plan and respond and react to whatever DOES happen, so that soon afterwards, I can continue on in my life in some semblance of normalcy.
It happens literally a MILLION times a day, every day, year in and year out. Dust particles, micrometeorites, giant ice balls including those photographed by NASA over the years, debris and smoke particles from larger space rocks that vaporize a hundred miles up in the atmosphere...it all hits the earth at some point...thanks to gravity.
My point is we don't think about this, and we should. Yes, the larger ones, like the one over Washington state a few days ago, remind us that "things" are up there, and aimed at us all the time. Why does it take the threat of a life-ending impact, to bring us around to consider "what do we do, where do we go, how will we go on"...mode of inner turmoil, that STILL won't let us get around to discussing and planning, how we could truly react and mitigate PERSONAL loss and death in the face of a REAL impact.
In over 220 posts in this thread, most of which tried to pursue truth and verification, there were interspersed precious little comments about what could and should be done by EACH of us, to prepare for the literal worst thing that could happen.
I suppose it is just human nature, to personally want to comtemplate our souls, our reasons for living, and even our navels, when some, or all, of the 4 horsemen are heard to be just over the horizon, and headed our way. But, if we as a civilization are to continue and prosper throughout the rest of the ages, we are going to HAVE to consider and discuss in open forums such as this, IN TIMES of threat, actions that we as a society, a family, a community, should truly plan and act on, for when the threat IS real.
If not this time, when?
If not this threat, then what?
If not this group, then where?
ALL of us here, in this forum, and preferably, on this board, are intelligent, caring people. The trolls, and provokers here, such as AB, DO serve a purpose, in getting US to think of things we normally don't.
Are we going to PLAN to take the time to make good, guided decisions on actions we should take for the time that Everest-sized rock falls on Canada again?
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,63728,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4
Are we going to wait until the threat from space IS real, and the entire population of the world's attention is required to be turned to fight the menace, such as late President Ronald Reagon refered to years ago in a speech about "an alien threat" during a December 4, 1985, speech at the Fallston High School in Maryland, where he spoke about his first summit with General Secretary Gorbachev in Geneva. According to a White House transcript, Reagan remarked that during his 5-hour private discussions with Gorbachev, he told [Gorbachev] to think, "how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries ..."
Replace "Aliens" with "Giant Flaming Rocks From Space", and yes, the world WOULD come together if the threat was real.
Come'on, people. It's NOT real this time...but what are you going to do when it is? Or, are you going to shut down, run around in circles in your yards screaming, "the end is near, the end is near", have panic sex in your last hours, or make a mad dash to become a classic liberalists few of a survivalist, and raid the gun shops, grocery stores, and SUV dealers and head for the hills, without any planning or forthought?
This thread is not quite done, I think...
Let's turn our attention to CALMLY discussing what our families could REALLY do, if a ROCK was really headed our way.
Give it a shot, it could turn out to be one of the best things you ever do.
Richard
222 posted on
06/05/2004 3:20:59 PM PDT by
rafleet
(Http://www.survivalring.org - "Study Yesterday...Prepare Today...Live Tomorrow.")
To: rafleet
Nice post. This is the stuff of "survival". The kind of thing I've tried to teach my children and now my grandkids over the years, not to mention many other people (my own web site is a "survival site", but pragmatism is the key.
We store extra food and water here, in the event we need it, natural disasters, etc. I think it WILL happen someday. I think a lot of things could happen.
Seen President Reagan pass today brought back a lot of memories of when I worked there at the WHite House. One of them was Reagan himself telling us stories sitting under a tree on his ranch when he'd grown tired of chopping logs. He believed, from the things he said, that there are greater threats out there than "Communists" and "antigovernment" people (his words). The greatest threats to mankind, other than itself lies beyond the edge of our atmosphere, in space. Some day, he said, we will have to face it. To this day, I really am not sure if he was referring to "aliens" or "space rocks". I know what a threat from space is. I think it is space rocks.
Others are pursuing catching up with this so-called Doctor. I'll keep going, but no promises. If I get anything on the radio data, I'll let you all know.
223 posted on
06/05/2004 5:32:57 PM PDT by
Rick.Donaldson
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