The Hobbit Hole IX - A sudden tree or standing stone

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[HairOfTheDog]

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A sudden tree or standing stone

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...
• Seventh Thread: The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...
• Eighth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VIII - Still round the corner we may meet...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

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[Fedora]

Most of these band names don't mean anything to me. But then - I've seen Third Day, Caedmon's Call, Jars of Clay, Michael W. Smith, and Big Tent Revival in concert, and most likely you've never heard of them. Except me mentioning them.

Almost, except for Jars of Clay and Michael Smith :)

[Fedora]

I did a research paper on themes of Beowulf and tied them into LotR ideals for a Western Civilization course once.

That sounds interesting! What'd you say on that?

[Fedora]

I still want to borrow that recording of Beowulf in Old English from the library here. I know I wouldn't be able to understand it...but I'd love to hear how it sounded just the same.

I want to hear that, too! :)

[JenB]

Um, that was three years ago. I don't remember. Basically that glory and valor and honor were noble ideals best represented by the warrior-hero, I think.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Jars of Clay is going to be at SoulFest2004...along with Rebecca St. James, Newsboys, David Ruis, and RelientK.

Jess and I are thinking of going, but the ticket prices are a BIT out of reach right now. We may end up just getting a day pass.

[Fedora]

And just to make Jen feel better...when I was first in the military, one of the guys I worked with was a big Led Zeppelin fan. The subject came out one day, and I said "Who's he?"

LOL!--now that's a classic quote :) I'm reminded of John Lennon's reply when reporters praised his new song "I am the Walrus", commenting on how well he'd emulated James Joyce. Lennon grew genuinely puzzled and asked, "Who's James Joyce?" :)

[JenB]

Oh, man. Rebecca St. James is my favorite female singer - great range, and such power! Newsboys rock, and RelientK is just weird and cool. I love their latest album. What an awesome combo.

[Fedora]

Rosie, I'm so glad I'm not the only musically clueless person in the world.

Actually, I was pretty musically clueless myself up to about freshman year of college. Then I decided to make a study of it, which is the only reason I know some of the bands we're talking about here :) These days I've come to prefer classical music to rock, though.

[JenB]

I like classical music, some Christian rock, and my small collection of anime theme songs. It's an odd mix.

Oh, and I like James Taylor, too.

[Fedora]

When I started getting into Zeppelin, I discovered I'd heard a lot of their songs before, I just didn't know it was them! I did hear "Whole Lotta Love" when I was little and thought it had the coolest sound--I don't know what instrument it is, but at the end of the refrain there's this kind of whooshing sound that drops suddenly in tone, which as a kid reminded me of an airplane landing. I remember going in this restaurant and playing that song over and over until I didn't have any more money, just because I thought that sound was so cool, LOL! After that I didn't listen to them specifically for years, just caught them on the radio occasionally, until college; and then one day I happened to hear "Black Dog" and said, "Hey, I've heard that before!" Similar experience with Floyd: heard "Another Brick in the Wall Part 2" when it came out, didn't listen to them again for years until a friend had me watch the movie in college.

[Fedora]

Lots and lots of division and subtraction, I suppose.

LOL! And adding the body count of the monsters he slew! BTW has anyone ever done a decent Beowulf movie that you're aware of?--I've always wished there was one.

[Fedora]

Yeah, another thing I liked about Zeppelin was their Tolkien quotes. I was kinda hoping Jackson would get them to do the soundtrack for LotR.

So I'm packing my bags for the Misty Mountains. . .

[JenB]

Dunno, I've never seen one, but then I haven't seen many movies.

I've never heard of a good Beowulf movie, though.

Ever read "The Legacy of Heorot", SF by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle and some other guy? Used the motif in an interesting way. And it was a cool book.

[RMDupree]

Immigrant Song has a whole new meaning when you're a FReeper. Everytime I hear it now, all I can think of are the Viking Kitties!!

VALHALLA, I AM COMING!!!!!!!! ZOT!!!

*laughing*

[Fedora]

I saw that Berlin "Wall" concert--it was indeed classic :)

[Fedora]

Basically that glory and valor and honor were noble ideals best represented by the warrior-hero, I think.

Hmmm--I'll have to read again with that in mind. I remember identifying what I thought were some themes the last time I read it. I think I picked out different stuff than you noticed, but that's probably because I was focusing on certain specific things, as I was reading for background for my horror novel series. I was trying to tie the part about Grendel being descended from Cain into the prehistory of my novel with the Watchers, etc. Later in my series I'm thinking of having a story with Beowulf's relatives in it--there are some references to Beowulf's ancestors in the poem which I've found allude to legends recorded in Norse literature that Tolkien also drew from, so I'm thinking of expanding on some of the characters mentioned and tying it into my backstory.

[JenB]

I was mostly looking at the self-sacrificial aspect of a hero, I think - exemplified by Beowulf's last fight, with the dragon.

[Fedora]

I like classical music, some Christian rock, and my small collection of anime theme songs. It's an odd mix.

Same here--I'm all over the musical board. I've listened to some Christian rock but have only scratched the surface of it--out of what I've heard what I probably like best is Don Francisco but I don't know if he really qualifies as Christian rock, maybe closer to Christian folk music. I like a lot of theme songs from cartoons, too; and lately of course I've had the Kenshin theme songs earworming through my head :)

[Fedora]

I have added Legacy of Heorot to my must-read list!

On the self-sacrifical theme, did you notice any Messianic imagery there? I like the way Tolkien handled Messianic imagery in LotR, I'm curious if that may have been partly inspired by Beowulf.

[Fedora]

LOL! I associate "The Immigrant Song" with the Viking Kitties, too; and also with the Green Bay Packers :)