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Posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:41 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?
A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. We may not ~always~ have a lot of activity, but when we do, it will be fun. I will put a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!
I will also develop a ping list for horse threads that are of interest. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.
I am hoping this thread will be a fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.
Quarter horses have become quite variant lately, from the tall thoroughbred looking horses like Trash to the western pleasure type who can move around the ring with no apparent movement at all, to the halter horses that are built like musclebound linebackers with remarkably cute but undersized little feet.
And off away from the show ring, people that ride reining and cutting and barrels still breed and produce the good all-around quarter horse like Harley, and like Rocky. They look the type of the old cow horse. Strong without being musclebound, quick without being hot-headed.
That's the way I see it anyway. I'm not overly schooled on Quarter horses, but similar divergent types have developed in Arabian circles, where the "English Pleasure" now means "Park Horse" with exaggerated action and hot temperaments that is only a "pleasure" in the way that an adrenaline rush is pleasurable.
Really!:) I thought Old Foundation quarters were the shorter, boxy, muscled ones. More like our stud horse, who comes from Poco Bueno blood lines. Was Poco Bueno TB blood?
I've always thought English horses, should be longer leaner and have more impulsion, where as Quarters, were wider, more heavey muscled, and had shorter strides.? Like I've said before, I don't know that much about what English judges look for, I just thought Harley fit my:) picture of one. Becky
Yups. :)
There are similar variations in TBs as well, just not quite so exaggerated. I think that people need to focus on *what* they want a horse to do first and breed second. Too many times people seem to think, ok, I want a horse of *this* breed, but that does *this* completely other thing that this breed perhaps isn't built for. Breeds were developed for reasons. It's important to stay openminded enough to focus on what you want your horse *for*.
Well I'm not overly schooled in anything:). I just have "MY" prespective.LOL.
If I can get on one and they do what I want them too, and don't do it in a manner that I can get killed:), they're a good horse IMO:) I'm not big on papers anyway other then they're good to tell the age of the horse.
Like Trash. He is supposedly from a very hot headed bloodline, DashforCash. He seems pretty laid back to me. But I also don't think he looks anything like what I would want a Quarter Horse to look like. Neither did Harley for that matter, but he was still put together good. But I wouldn't look twice at Trash. I think he's pretty ugly:). Might be better if he was more filled out tho.
Becky
Exactly:)
Becky
Exactly:)
And the dad was trying to tell me "saftey was their to priority:), I'm beginning to wonder.
Becky
1. Time for your buyers to #$)(^%() or get off the pot. At this point they're just looking for negotiation points or over-working this deal.
2. The "palomino expert" is probably because they're thinking about showing the horse in specialty and wanted to make sure he could qualify.
3. Hunter equitation - judged entirely on the rider. However, when you go to a hunter show in a junior division, you usually wind up showing the horse both in equitation and in the hunter classes (you can enter them as a unit). Usually there will be equitation on the flat and equitation over fences, in which the judge looks purely at the rider's form. HOWsomever, the horse does make a difference in equitation classes. Ideally, you want a horse light in hand so you don't have to tug and shove, easy lead changes and smooth gaits so you don't bounce out of position.
It's my own experience, at least locally here, that a good smooth forward hunter type with even but brisk pace will win both in equitation and the hunter classes. Technically, the hunter classes are judged on the suitability of the horse for the hunting field rather than the rider, but you can't really separate the two. A horse that does well in the hunter classes will show his rider off to advantage in the equitation classes.
My mare lacks the strong impulsion of a true dressage horse - but she is smooth and steady and jumps naturally out of her stride - a born Working Hunter (which is the class in which you judge suitability for the hunting field) and she's pretty enough to win Conformation Hunter. So sometimes we just enter a hunter show and I'll put her in a 2'6" and 3'0" or 3'3" class. The only thing she has EVER refused with me is a big "coffin" jump on a cross country course - and I didn't like the look of that thing either. We got a lead over and she did fine.
The dad originally backed away from looking at him because he didn't jump yet. When he called back a month later he said that the lady at the barn said the jumping would/could come later if the horse was as good as I said.
She is now saying he has preformed exactly like I said he would and is jumping some. Maybe that is where the "green" does come in.
How big a jump will they need him to take for the kid to show him? Is there any critiera for younger kids vs. adults jumping?
Becky
Thank you:), that's what I'm thinking.
Becky
LOL. I went to this stable to watch Heather show one time. It was a fun show and she had asked if she could take Rocky. I told her he was no English horse, but she didn't care, so I took him. There were some parents there making noise about her riding him. He was an "outsider," a stud, and IMO they realized he was beautiful too:). In a class their daughter was in the horse refused a jump and the kid went to squalling. The trainer told her to dry it up, but the parents weren't real happy. I was actually glad Rock didn't do so good, I would have hated to have to get in their faces:)
Becky
I hated 4-H horse judging. It was all luck of the draw wether you matched the judge's opinion or not. It's more of a "guess what the juge is thinking" event when it comes to judging the under saddle portion. And even with conformation.
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